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Originally posted by Stef Of course let me just get it into a neat little pack.

Cheers man .. Legend !

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Originally posted by Stef Well the simplest ways to describe the mid bass are the essentially the part of the basslines that give the majority of the drive to the track. A mid bass is most often a low octave bass sound with the most of the major lower frequencies stripped away. And a sub bass is just what it sounds like the sub frequencies that are there to just give more power to a track. Here is an example of both: Sub bass: [[ LINK REMOVED ]] Mid bass: [[ LINK REMOVED ]]

yeah sweet mate, cheers for that, been needlessly confused about that for a while
very simple but effective.
i've just been making mid-basses, with no sub, and my bass has always sounded hollow, just chucked a simple sub
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and it sounds 100 times better. cheers

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Thats the second rolling bassline sorted ! anyone hav any ideas on recreating the first sample bassline the more progressive one ?

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Originally posted by blue-horizon Thats the second rolling bassline sorted ! anyone hav any ideas on recreating the first sample bassline the more progressive one ?

probbly with alterations on the first method.

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Originally posted by EgosXII probbly with alterations on the first method.

Ye maybe ... but the last note seems to have a pitch bend or something on it or maybe its a different octave ! dont really know how its done ?

I'm confused how this is different than what I said.

Well , Actually i would want to know how to create this unique bassline , espically the one at the armin remix.
But i was thinking ,
If you play 4 hi hats loops at the same time , they would sound complex.
And since the basslines we are talking about is also Complex,
Wouldn't playing 4 seperate basslines at the same time sounds kinda complex?

Just my 2 cents

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Originally posted by noicuc Well , Actually i would want to know how to create this unique bassline , espically the one at the armin remix. But i was thinking , If you play 4 hi hats loops at the same time , they would sound complex. And since the basslines we are talking about is also Complex, Wouldn't playing 4 seperate basslines at the same time sounds kinda complex? Just my 2 cents

Multiple mid basses with a separate delay on each on, though each sidechained should be the trick.

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Something ive always found helpful is understanding the concept behind the layered effect. Usually when you layer something its because rarely does one sound fully provide everything to the track. For Example...

Sub Bass - Used for the lower end subwoofer driving freqs (the bass you feel)
Midbass - I refer to this as texture or the bass that you hear.

With multiple layers of mid bass with delay and various other fx you create your bassline.

This is often seen with leads. Where the use of panning, layered sounds and freq eq/roll offs can produce a massive lead sound.

I find the hardest thing to do is creating really thick full sounding basslines without distortion or clipping. Still trying to overcome that. Getting there though


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I also struggle with getting a good sounding bassline, particularly when trying to get that layered sound, so often used on the Discover label. I understand the concept behind it yet find it hard to create bassline patterns that when layered with another, dont sound a mess, even when eq'd. If anyone could provide examples of basslines with 3-4 seperate layers, either in midi file format or written notation, im sure myself and countless others would find it extremely useful for improving our productions. Thanks.