When i am in Fl studio i am always working with the step sequencer. You can put midi notes in the "playlist" which is basically like arrangement mode in ableton. But once you start in that step sequencer you can't just start working in the playlist with midi. That is mainly why i am starting to switch sequencers. I am deciding between ableton and sonar, leaning towards sonar.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Ha, yeah. When I feel like I'm stuck in a rut, I take the sequencer off of loop mode. It makes me start thinking of it as a whole composition rather than a pile of loops...

We've got the exact same mindset when it comes to that then.

pwnage1: sounds like you're in the same boat too. I tried sonar when I was on a PC, and I'd probably be using it if I didn't now own a Mac.

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I've seen people doing amazing things with Ableton, however, the layout of the program doesn't really catch me. I am also hooked on Cubase so that could be a reason why Ableton doesn't interest me at this point.

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Originally posted by Theran I've seen people doing amazing things with Ableton, however, the layout of the program doesn't really catch me. I am also hooked on Cubase so that could be a reason why Ableton doesn't interest me at this point.

Same here, i really like Ableton until i get to the arrangement window, then i dont feel comfortable at all.
The way Cubase handles blocks of audio and MIDI is just amazing!
Cut, copy, duplicate, paste, crossfade, so damn easy i can lay down a whole arrangement in a matter of minutes.

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Do you reckon an FL studio user would catch on quicker with Cubase than Ableton?

I think FL users will have an easier time getting used to Ableton. Ableton is more or less similar to FL in a way. Unconventional layout, but practical and easy to get around in. Cubase takes a lot more searching and getting to know all those nifty shortcuts before it really gets you up to speed.

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I recently moved from Fl Studio to Ableton Live and it was really quick to learn not because they are similar (the arrangement and mixer windows in particular are really different from FL's system) but because everything in Live is really intuitive in my opinion

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Originally posted by staticblue I recently moved from Fl Studio to Ableton Live and it was really quick to learn not because they are similar (the arrangement and mixer windows in particular are really different from FL's system) but because everything in Live is really intuitive in my opinion

I have to agree here, and as far as what Subtle said with cutting, copying, pasting, and all that, you CAN do that in Live and its quick and easy once you learn the shortcuts to do it.

Like cutting, it doesn't say cut, but, it has split, which you can split segments fast and if you know the shortcuts, you can copy and paste super fast, just highlight the section you want, press ctrl+ drag it, presto.

For me, I have tried all sequencers except Logic and Reaper, and I found none as simple and powerful at the same time as Live. There are many that are good, but, Live, is fast, for me anyway. But, I have been sticking to it, and really like many have said already, it just depends on what works for your work flow.

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I second that too. Working with Live is fast. There are some things it cannot do but you have to be extremely trained to know which parts still need some improvements from the Abletonz. Good thing with shortcuts if you're on a mac, is that you can affect the different operations to your function keys. IF you need the function keys (for brightness, volume etc...) you can affect it all to Fn+Function key. Dead simple to do in Os X and I'm sure you can do the same into Windows.

I'm gonna say it again, but, Don't let those user interfaces get in the way of your creativity.


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Originally posted by staticblue I recently moved from Fl Studio to Ableton Live and it was really quick to learn not because they are similar (the arrangement and mixer windows in particular are really different from FL's system) but because everything in Live is really intuitive in my opinion

why did you switch, if you don't mind me asking? i've done the same thing (as in switched from FL).

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