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Originally posted by mfitterer1 I say bs to that. 5 years is a ridiculously long time. When you live and breathe this stuff it just comes far easier. Everything is very simple and technical if you allow it to be. If you allow yourself to get in too deep or extend yourself into something you aren't ready for or don't need/understand yet, well then it's a lot harder. You have to take your present skill set and take 100% advantage of it on a daily basis. Over time your skill set will continue to increase as will the quality of your tracks and producing.

I'm not quite sure what you're on about but in my experience everyone I know who is a really good musician or producer has been at it for much longer than five years. More like 15-20 years.

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Originally posted by Lolo You're missing a very important point in my opinion... If you think when running Logic pro that you don't have enough power in your tracks, that's because you don't train frequently enough. Do you think that Kobe Bryant got to the top of the NBA with only a few good shots? Do you think that Jamie Oliver was born as the best british cook (although I must admit that his skills are quite limited compared to some french cooks'). It looks like you want to run while you can't walk properly yet. Don't hate me if I'm wrong, it's just a first sight on your situation. Music production is just like any other skill. You can do anything you want, but you must train, again again and again!!! I takes me days and days of training in a year to achieve stuff I thought I wouldn't be capable of, and still I think I'm not that good at all. Just like you, I'm using Logic, or Live, and I have no outboard gear at all (no Virus Ti, no big desk, nothing) because I have no money. So you want to get over the top? achieve great things? Be tough, hard, violent, picky with yourself and you will be able to make it :-)

Dude, you are an inspiration.

Depressing though that someone of your stature still struggles to fund his craft.

And please made a joke track called Lolo - LOL or ROFL or PMSL or summet.

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For me, it's mostly a matter of choosing the right sample (or two), and making sure nothing drowns it out. (Make sure the bassline freqs don't interfere... apply some subtle ducking, if necessary, and make sure the rest of the mix isn't too loud.)

Hey Laurent, just wanted to say thanks for doing the preset!

BadApple - I had a very quick listen and your tracks aren't in that bad shape. On Dark, you can hear the kickhas an after hiss, which is either the sample itself or the result of bad compression.

The key is to layer a couple of kicks like lolo explained - you can even just do them as individual samples on two (or more) tracks. One with nice bottom end and one pitched up or more "clicky" to give it attack.

A while back everyone was banging on about compression on kicks and compressing one this wy and the other that way then compressing them both etc.

I could not understand it - just get a decent kick sound in the sample and don't fuck about with all that compression. Compression won't make a bad sample sound good.

Also a way easier way is to find a track with a kick you really like and use that. Yes' you will have to do a little work to make the other elements sit with it but you have to do that anyway....

Personally the best kick I've ever found and this is to my tastes is the one of my Xbase 888. I don't really even process it. I'm hoping to pick up an Mbase 01 when I can in the future. I say just find something you like and then use it.

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Where did my post go?
Well anyway. I got lucky with my kicks maybe a month or 2 after I bought these headphones (not flat, they're boss brand actually).

I didn't buy them for music, but learned they color sound better than anything in the world for translating kicks. If you turn a kick up to 0db under my regular speakers it kills the sound with an overload of bass to the woofer.

On these headphones when I find a GOOD kick sample, its a GOOD sample. They just have this wierd property where they make bouncy kicks glow, and woody kicks (that aren't easy to hear as trash) sound like wood trashy kicks.
My kicks instantly went from shit to extremely good after getting these headphones. Again they're not flat at all, but they color for the benefit of kick/bass translation.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Hey Laurent, just wanted to say thanks for doing the preset! BadApple - I had a very quick listen and your tracks aren't in that bad shape. On Dark, you can hear the kickhas an after hiss, which is either the sample itself or the result of bad compression. The key is to layer a couple of kicks like lolo explained - you can even just do them as individual samples on two (or more) tracks. One with nice bottom end and one pitched up or more "clicky" to give it attack. A while back everyone was banging on about compression on kicks and compressing one this wy and the other that way then compressing them both etc. I could not understand it - just get a decent kick sound in the sample and don't fuck about with all that compression. Compression won't make a bad sample sound good. Also a way easier way is to find a track with a kick you really like and use that. Yes' you will have to do a little work to make the other elements sit with it but you have to do that anyway....

Thanks for taking a listen. Some of those noises i cannot seem to get out, however they are the only kick samples in logic that have that punch i like. I have only been doin this for like 9 months now and I really want to get that quality thump in my songs. It is just so fuckin hard to get....ugh

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