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Originally posted by Jayx1 Oh i have... but thanks for assuming otherwise. And being around kids i know that i have the responsibility of making sure they are safe at all times which means watching them like a hawk. And as i said quite frankly there are bigger "ingestion" concerns at a playground than cigarette butts. Usually "ingestion" problems can be prevented by teaching kids how dirty things on the ground are. I think thats how we all learned growing up. But hey, big government brother would disagree. They know better right?

I agree that drugs are a huge concern but anything we can do to get second had smoke away from people that dont want it is a step in the right direction.

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Originally posted by Inrush I think this is a good thing. Just because they are doing this doesnt mean that they are not addressing some "real problems" btw This is a real problem! Smoke kills period! I dont want kids I know breathing in that shit just because the grownup is to stupid to not think of them. This is a point in the right direction.

+1

im all for the ban!
i am still waiting on the day cigarettes will be banned outright

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Oh i have... but thanks for assuming otherwise. And being around kids i know that i have the responsibility of making sure they are safe at all times which means watching them like a hawk. And as i said quite frankly there are bigger "ingestion" concerns at a playground than cigarette butts. Usually "ingestion" problems can be prevented by teaching kids how dirty things on the ground are. I think thats how we all learned growing up. But hey, big government brother would disagree. They know better right?

Absolutely right Jay...

HOWEVER...

I do agree with banning smoking anywhere there are children who may be influenced by the habit...

It's stupid to say it's for the second hand smoke thing though...

You're fuckin outside for Christ sake...

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Originally posted by chinamon chinamon is INCH MOAN. LOL so fitting.

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Originally posted by Inrush I agree that drugs are a huge concern but something we have no control over. So instead we will distract people with useless laws to show them that we care. Anything we can do to distract people from the real problems that takes real leadership to fix is a step in the right direction

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Originally posted by devnull +1 im all for the ban! i am still waiting on the day cigarettes will be banned outright

So are the hells angels im sure!

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Originally posted by VDub Absolutely right Jay... HOWEVER... I do agree with banning smoking anywhere there are children who may be influenced by the habit...

Why? Both my parents smoked and told me constantly that they wish they had never started. My mom was always upfront about every time she tried to quit and failed. The demonstration and education by being exposed to the problem instead of hiding it is what led me to a non smoking lifestyle. The more ignorant you make your kid, the more he is apt to make the mistake you are trying to avoid them from making. This is a parenting decision id like to make. Instead the government is taking it upon themselves to make these decisions on my behalf. Its offensive.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Weak. So one person's opinion (Or some special interest group's) on how parenting should be done DOWN TO THE MINUTE DETAIL should be law and forced upon everyone? Perhaps we should just give up our children to the state for proper training until 18? That will solve everything right?

why dont we just make all rules obsolete. That would solve everything right?

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If somebody at a playground is close enough for their smoke to affect my kid, we have got bigger problems than smoking i can assure you

again stupid peoples friends that are with you and your kid smoking away would be a big problem. This happens, I have seen it a bunch of times. Yes you cant protect them in the house but why wouldnt we try to help out as much as possible.

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Wow you know me well... I have no experience with kids and im a smoker. Double fail my friend. Never smoked with exception of literally a few cigars in my lifetime.

well I just assumed because you are no for us protecting kids from second hand smoke. There is a reason they are making this law. Its not just like they go... well lets do this today. They have studies and research and then go about making laws. Sometimes they are not the best but in this case I am 100% for it. But thats just my opinion.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 FIXED

not fixed. But I like where you are going with it. NEW WORLD ORDER!

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Originally posted by devnull i am still waiting on the day cigarettes will be banned outright

cant wait for that day!!!

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Originally posted by VDub Absolutely right Jay... HOWEVER... I do agree with banning smoking anywhere there are children who may be influenced by the habit... It's stupid to say it's for the second hand smoke thing though... You're fuckin outside for Christ sake...

you are right about the influence thing but it is still about second hand smoke as well.

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don't worry about second hand smoke....third hand smoke is even worse for you.

The whole thing is stupid...there are a lot of other things in this world that are going to kill kids before a sniff of some smoke from a cigarette.

Lets just ban everything that could hurt us....actually that would be too hard....it would be easier to just kill the human race....which probably isn't a bad idea....we are too stupid for our own good.

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Originally posted by Inrush why dont we just make all rules obsolete. That would solve everything right?

Or better yet. Let the government get back to governing instead of social engineering and micromanaging lifestyles!!

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again stupid peoples friends that are with you and your kid smoking away would be a big problem. This happens I have seen it a bunch of times. Yes you cant protect them in the house but why wouldnt we try to help out as much as possible.

Sure you can. "Um excuse me friend. Please dont smoke next to my child. Thank you." Taking responsibility for your child without government intervention. Wow, what a concept.

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well I just assumed because you are no for us protecting kids from second hand smoke.

LOL!! Who said that? What i am not for are stupid laws that achieve absolutely nothing but allowing some councillor to boast that she actually did something for the community. These are PR stunts.

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There is a reason they are making this law.

I agree... see above.

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Its not just like they go well lets do this today. They have studies and research and then go about making laws. Sometimes they are not the best but in this case I am 100% for it. But thats just my opinion.

There are also studies that say ingestion of small amounts of antifreeze wont kill you. So what? Studies say that all kinds of things can be harmful to you. Should we ban literally everything just to be safe? I cant wait until the government starts banning fast food from children and fining parents who give their kids a hamburger. The worst part is is that people like you would probably be all for it.