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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On OOKA-OOKA ME NACHOS ME PRESS KEYS ON COMPUTER GOOD

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Originally posted by Capitalizt If you liked Counter Strike, you will have an orgasm over Team Fortress 2. I highly recommend it. Better yet, pick up the Orange Box (which includes TF2) so you can play the Half Life 2 Trilogy + Portal also. I also recommend Bioshock for an epic single player adventure. It's the spiritual successor to System Shock 2...pwnage. F.E.A.R. is also a great horror game that can be found for under $10 if you look around...well worth it.

yah i have the orange box, and i also have left for dead, i could play them, just not with the graphics up.

i'm looking for new games like farcry 2, just one that isn't so borring. gonna see how crysis is.

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Originally posted by BTG no way man. i'm waiting for starcraft 2. i like a strategy game with a lot of depth. not fucking giant robots. /a joke

You mean



kinda like...



these?

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I watched a SC2 battle the other day, and man if it didn't reek of warcraft. Talk about a snorefest

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you just dont understand it's complexity.

yeah, insta-hit mechanics and hard counters. real complex.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN yeah, insta-hit mechanics and hard counters. real complex.

THERE ARE 3 RACES!!!!

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Originally posted by BTG THERE ARE 3 RACES!!!!

chess has 1, and its still one of the most complicated strategy games ever

enjoy your rock-paper-scissors

inb4 project-k's "its not RPS" (when it really is).

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN yeah, insta-hit mechanics and hard counters. real complex.

hard counters>mass enough of anything and you can win.

It's not like any non newbie is gonna use all of one unit anyway. There's also quite a lot of soft counters and stuff going on as well.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN I watched a SC2 battle the other day, and man if it didn't reek of warcraft. Talk about a snorefest

SC2 battle animations are kind've shitty though, so I might kind've agree+the people who are demonstrating stuff are probably kind've shit.

After watching a few of the replays on this site though theres certainly a lot going on when you play and has a ton of depth. More units does not necassarily mean better.

As mentioned its also really not all about hard counters. For instance pvt early game

Vultures have low health and cannot do much damage to dragoons so goons beat them, but vultures have mines which absolutely shatter dragoons. Siege tanks beat goons by a medium amount when the dragoons are clumped together (splash damage) however one on one its allmost even, dragoons can also walk next to siege tanks beyond their minimum range so they can't attack. (speed) zeals beat tanks, but they get owned by vultures and their spider mines.

Additionally, terran tends to start gaining an advantage with that matchup once the numbers on either side start getting larger, however protoss has a number of specialist units that can deal a lot of damage or cause a great nuisance. Once you bring in shuttles, reavers, arbiters, science vessals and goliaths into this mix as well you get something that is most certainly not "rock/paper/scissors"

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Originally posted by Darkarbiter Vultures have low health and cannot do much damage to dragoons so goons beat them, but vultures have mines which absolutely shatter dragoons. Siege tanks beat goons by a medium amount when the dragoons are clumped together (splash damage) however one on one its allmost even, dragoons can also walk next to siege tanks beyond their minimum range so they can't attack. (speed) zeals beat tanks, but they get owned by vultures and their spider mines.

And that's really just scratching the surface. The whole dragoons/vulture dynamic shifts when someone with really good stop/move micro can trick mines into unburrowing and blow them up before they detonate. Siege tanks are temporarily impotent while they transform, so a good player can taunt the other into sieging/unsieging his tanks and use that window as an advantage. Don't even get me started about the whole zerglings vs zealots dynamic.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN chess has 1, and its still one of the most complicated strategy games ever

I find it ironic that you'd use that as an example here because starcraft is far deeper and more complex than chess.

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