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Originally posted by Alex Atheists need to reach the same level of charity worldwide that the big 3 religions do before they can be called anything close,

says who? what, all other religions don't count?

regardless, it has already done plenty of 'charity', for example, the efforts to maintain an education on evolution rather than creationism.

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Originally posted by Alex if they do that then sure, let them worship an empty jar or whatever it is you guys do.

ironic.

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Originally posted by Alex Actually that's exactly what atheists do worldwide, whenever religion voices it's opinions on anything the atheists get up in arms and want whatever the religious are trying to do to either remain or become secular. I don't advocate what people did in the name of God when it comes to killing people, but I don't see how that discredits the religion's motivations nowadays. Especially when it helps millions of people worldwide.

Hey, I am not for banning religion or destroying it. Religion does help some people. I just dont support its agression. I dont adhere to religion, as I said. Religious people just need to be more respectable and understanding of all people, especially from other beliefs, especially when they are non-violent.

Labeling atheists as people who dont believe in anything - to me its the same thing as considering electronic music (EDM) not to be REAL music. Yes, I hear that a lot about music.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Atheists should elect their own Pope / representative. For the sake of it.

As if atheists could agree on anything other than there being no God

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Originally posted by Lira As if atheists could agree on anything other than there being no God

Hah!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, did you read the OP?

Ooops. Well, you get the general idea. Of what I meant. I see religious symbols, buildings and people all the time, but I dont boycott a class because one of my teachers is a devout Catholic.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Hey, I am not for banning religion or destroying it. Religion does help some people. I just dont support its agression. I dont adhere to religion, as I said. Religious people just need to be more respectable and understanding of all people, especially from other beliefs, especially when they are non-violent.

I agree.

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Originally posted by Alex They have, his name is Richard Dawkins and he's retarded.

Actually I just read his book "The God Delusion"..and he is not.

He dismantles religion with impeccable religion and logic. Give it a read.

I've read all of his books almost, including the God Delusion

He does not dismantle religion at all, how about you watch some of his debates and see him get torn to shreds by practically anyone?

There was even a debate between him and John Lennox on the issue OF the God Delusion book, and he lost that one too.


So please Don't be such a boring conformist

Fuck, even Ben Stein owned Richard Dawkins and forced him to admit that we were created.

Give me a fucking break

I'll watch it..but I fail to see how it is possible for him to "lose" any debate on religion..because the burden of proof is on those claiming creation/God to be fact. Until they produce solid evidence (that the earth is 6000 years old and God created man out of a woman's rib) to compete with the solid evidence we have on natural selection, evolution, the true age of the universe, etc. they can never truly "win" any debate on the subject.

Yes, theists can.

The burden of proof is on neither of the two groups.

Naturalism, while many think it is, is not grounded 100% in science. A lot of what Dawkins says is not scientific at all, merely philosophical statements he's making about science.

The question of God's existence is one that science cannot decide, even Dawkins admits this on a number of occasions. This is why he admits that "There is a strong case for the existence of God" in one of his more recent interviews.

Don't get me wrong, Dawkins is a decent biologist but he does not understand religion well enough nor does he understand philosophy well enough to make the bold and "ear catching" statements he does.

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Originally posted by Alex Fuck, even Ben Stein owned Richard Dawkins and forced him to admit that we were created. Give me a fucking break

hypocrite. why don't you put yourself on ignore?

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