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Originally posted by Acton Tried that Sean. If it is set to Sends Only, the clip I wish to play is silenced. So there is no fully dry signal to fully wet transition.

Yes there is. Don't use return tracks, just apply the desired effect on the normal track and use the dry/wet knob. Isn't it that simple?

But I see what you're trying to do, you want to have to nice sound effect "dying" when you put the send to 0 suddenly, right? Ok here's how to do it:

- apply your desired effect on the A return track
- duplicate your audio or midi track that you want to apply the return effect on
- setup one of the 2 tracks to "sends only" in the output section and turn the A send knob all the way (or less up to your taste)
- open the crossfader section and assign one track to A and the other to B
- play both clips at the same time and start playing with the cross fader which now acts as a Dry/wet knob.

Ok maybe there is another way to do this but this is how I would do it, as a matter of fact I'm gonna try this right away!

The only downside of this technique would be that you cannot use your crossfader anymore and that you can only do it once per project. Hope this helps!

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Originally posted by ponsshin Yes there is. Don't use return tracks, just apply the desired effect on the normal track and use the dry/wet knob. Isn't it that simple?

Yeah I obviously know that, but my aim is to send multiple channels through exactly the same effect, at the same time.

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But I see what you're trying to do

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you want to have to nice sound effect "dying" when you put the send to 0 suddenly, right? Ok here's how to do it: - apply your desired effect on the A return track - duplicate your audio or midi track that you want to apply the return effect on - setup one of the 2 tracks to "sends only" in the output section and turn the A send knob all the way (or less up to your taste) - open the crossfader section and assign one track to A and the other to B - play both clips at the same time and start playing with the cross fader which now acts as a Dry/wet knob. Ok maybe there is another way to do this but this is how I would do it, as a matter of fact I'm gonna try this right away! The only downside of this technique would be that you cannot use your crossfader anymore and that you can only do it once per project. Hope this helps!

That would achieve the desired effect, and if i wanted more channels I could just assign the crossfader accordingly.

But..... I can imagine this being quite messy in a live setup. I'm beggining to wonder if what I'm after is even possible lol.

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What I'd probably do in your case is pre-record the effect by sending all your audio channels to a new clip, putting your effect chain on there, and then recording it. When you're happy with it use that recorded clip in the track instead.

I know that's a bit annoying to do though =/

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Originally posted by Acton So I will have to control the wet level with the send knob, and when I want to get rid of the dry signal I will have to turn down the channel fader? and visa-versa.

Now you've got it
Sends and returns aren't ideal for a lot of stuff. Really, what they're best for is CPU intensive effects like reverb where routing multiple tracks to an effect is desirable. They are awkward for some stuff, as you can see.

The new ableton allows you to adjust the sends on multiple tracks at the same time using one knob, so that might be your solution

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