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Originally posted by Ry Thomas There is a sad fact in music, IT IS WHO YOU KNOW

I agree, like a year before I started producing I was introduced to Anthony Acid and there was so many routes available had I been producing than.
Than like a year ago (6 years later) my brother said he works in the same office and is great friends with DJ Mirages father. I was going to send him some demos but just don't feel I'm consistent enough for anything like that.
And by the time I am, I prob won't have any more avenues showing up. I think the best way to go is to DJ, play some sick sets, get well known, do the social networking thing for a few years, and than start playing out your own stuff when you *know its worthy. Or find a well known DJ who will play your shit, maybe start your own label and take a gamble.

the dj is your best friend if you want your tracks out in circulation then this is a must a very big must at that.

Try youtube , facebook , but still , if your song is played by a big dj that would be best i guess.

Why dont you send some demos to a record label? Wouldn't that be good?


And hey , your songs are pretty good

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start yer own label, its very fun and everyone on TA will hate u for it. but they dont buy music anyway, nor do they clubbing

My honest opinion is unfortunately there are a hell of a lot of people that won't listen to music if the artist isnt some huge name. And 9/10 times the only way to achieve this is through a label. It fucking sucks but in my opinion & experience it just is =/

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The best way is to start your own label.
Or
You can spam the internet all you want...but the fact is there are thousands of others- probably just as talented as you- doing the same.
IT IS WHO YOU KNOW.

you need to go to gigs, and give the cds to the djs or their managers (or ideally both).
Talk to them if you can they are only human, and apart from the few arrogant head-up-ass ones, most will talk to you if you catch them at an appropriate time (like for example after they have finished playing the closing set)
In my work as a sound enginner for two of the best clubs in the world, I have seen so many people hand their demos to the djs- or give them to me to hand to them.
And you know what? they always put them in their cd wallets to listen to later. Thats right into the hands of the people who can play them (or sign them), and then if it is good, they share them with their friends etc etc. If its not up to scratch you may get some feedback from them too.
Keep doing it with quality material and things should happen.

Seen it happen plenty of times....


Im in the position where I can have one of my tracks directly to a lot of A list Djs within a few minutes, because i have built up contacts through the years and the course of my work with these people- or throgh being introduced to people through people.
Some have become very good friends too.

As always, put in the effort and you should see some reward. Sadly in the music business you need a LOT of effort....

Last edited by Freak on Jan-30-2009 at 13:55

Lots of good info here. As far as starting my own label goes, nah, that's not something I have the time or desire for. My feeling on indie labels in the EDM market is that it's becoming all too common for every producer to also be his/her label, and that is eventually going to kill the concept of the indie label, if it hasn't already.

Coincidentally, I was on another trance forum the other day and went into my personal settings for the first time in months to change my signature and, low and behold, I had several PMs that I never saw (apparently, that particular forum does not alert you to new PMs by default and I rarely go that forum anyway). Two of the PMs were from pretty well-known labels expressing interest in two of our songs. One in particular was a label run by a pretty well-known DJ. So, that brings me back to my original dillema - do I just go ahead and sign individual songs away, or do I hold out for what I really wanted to do: release a self-produced CD of my works, retain full rights to my songs, and look for other ways to distribute it. I have a suspicion that you guys will call me a fool for not signing the songs (and feel free to tell me that!), but keep in mind that I'm not in this for the money. Of course, signing a few songs to some of the better labels will definitely get me more exposure...

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I actually had a chat with one of my professors about this yesterday... not sure exacly where he got this statistic but the average independant musician (not EDM necessarily) can live comfortably (can afford a house) off a rotating 5,000-10,000 person fanbase...

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Originally posted by System101 I actually had a chat with one of my professors about this yesterday... not sure exacly where he got this statistic but the average independant musician (not EDM necessarily) can live comfortably (can afford a house) off a rotating 5,000-10,000 person fanbase...

Interesting. I have several friends, mostly former bandmates, who are still playing live and living pretty comfortably, but they're mostly doing covers or a combination of covers/originals and making their living off live gigs, rather than record sales. It seems like it would be a lot harder to make a living off recordings.

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Originally posted by Ry Thomas There is a sad fact in music, IT IS WHO YOU KNOW

This isn't always true. I got on 2 of the labels I'm on by physically handing a CD with my tracks on it to a DJ when he was playing in town. The 2nd was by mailing a physical CD to the label which resulted in them emailing me, which resulted in the signing.

A lot of people believe strongly that it's all about who you know and when I had these things happen to me, I was constantly asked by my friends and fellow producers, who hooked you up with that or who did you know that set you up? It would actually anger me greatly that they would just assume this and I would quickly explain that nobody got me anything, that I achieved what I did completely on my own and not because anyone did anything for me. I realize this probably isn't the norm and that I have been fortunate. However I write all of this to encourage anyone that these things are possible and just because you don't know someone doesn't mean you can't achieve getting on a label.

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Originally posted by cryophonik Lots of good info here. As far as starting my own label goes, nah, that's not something I have the time or desire for. My feeling on indie labels in the EDM market is that it's becoming all too common for every producer to also be his/her label, and that is eventually going to kill the concept of the indie label, if it hasn't already. Coincidentally, I was on another trance forum the other day and went into my personal settings for the first time in months to change my signature and, low and behold, I had several PMs that I never saw (apparently, that particular forum does not alert you to new PMs by default and I rarely go that forum anyway). Two of the PMs were from pretty well-known labels expressing interest in two of our songs. One in particular was a label run by a pretty well-known DJ. So, that brings me back to my original dillema - do I just go ahead and sign individual songs away, or do I hold out for what I really wanted to do: release a self-produced CD of my works, retain full rights to my songs, and look for other ways to distribute it. I have a suspicion that you guys will call me a fool for not signing the songs (and feel free to tell me that!), but keep in mind that I'm not in this for the money. Of course, signing a few songs to some of the better labels will definitely get me more exposure...

What I would do if I was in your situation. I'd sign those two tunes if its a decent label that is interested, get the exposure from those tracks, and then just make new tunes for your CD. That way you have a little exposure already to help your future CD sales and you can always make new fresh tunes to put on that future CD.

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