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Originally posted by xxonemanriotxx I do use FL. You got any tips?

best bet is to open the piano role use sytrus select something like acid or 3o3. why because its a lot easier to get that sound and groove going. once you feal that you have got close to what you want then start using other stuff mix and mold effects ect.

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Originally posted by Lucidity You guys can keep talkin crap about the mau5, I know people don't like his music but, honestly I have never heard any producer from any genre make sound, sound as good as he does. That might make his head a little too big but, its true. I am not trying to make music like his, but, I am trying to achieve the same or higher quality. As for his bass, maybe he does use hardware but, you can achieve it with software, just keep practicing. Sound is sound, I am a true believer that you can achieve the same with software as with hardware, you just gotta know what you are doing. I know this is not a big help but, I am still trying myself.

Cryphonik isn't far off. Given the equipment he uses, its not hard to make good sounds with a Moog Voyager, Nord Rack, Jupiter 8, Distressor, Little Phatty and whatever else is in the toy list. He probably smirks at people who talk up his sound, knowing anyone with the same setup can get it, unless your incapable of simple sound creation and mixing skills. And then after tracking if your taking stems over to a big console mixing desk for furthur mixing and mastering, your sound is getting even better.

Work hard or work smart, so one day when you have money, buy some good hardware like he has and you will be able to create better sounds. Worship the hardware if you are going to worship something.

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He probably smirks at people who talk up his sound, knowing anyone with the same setup can get it

Exactly.

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You guys truly believe that all that hardware is better than soft?I mean some of it you can't get in soft, but, like the Minimoog by Arturia I think sounds pretty awesome. I just believe if you work hard at it you can get just as good of sounds out of your daw. It might take more work but, I can tell you one thing, I for one in this economy cannot afford all that hardware. So I just keep trying, and I feel like I am making big strides with every track that I do. Maybe hardware is better, and maybe I will have some more someday, but, for now I will stick to sampling and softsynths.

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Originally posted by Lucidity You guys truly believe that all that hardware is better than soft?I mean some of it you can't get in soft, but, like the Minimoog by Arturia I think sounds pretty awesome. I just believe if you work hard at it you can get just as good of sounds out of your daw. It might take more work but, I can tell you one thing, I for one in this economy cannot afford all that hardware. So I just keep trying, and I feel like I am making big strides with every track that I do. Maybe hardware is better, and maybe I will have some more someday, but, for now I will stick to sampling and softsynths.

Software vs Hardware requires its own thread. This thread the question was already answered, start with a Voyager and a good hardware compressor if you want really good bass. I use Minimoog by Arturia myself for a lot of bass but it still doesn't compare to what i've heard through Dave Smith synths and some good compression usage. If I told you yahhh you can do it in software, i'd be blindly optimistic and doing OP a diservice if he really wants that sort of bass. So yah, get some good hardware, ask mom for money or work hard/smart and buy the tools to make good sounds yourself

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Originally posted by Lucidity You guys truly believe that all that hardware is better than soft?

I wouldn't say that hardware is better, even though I have used hardware for several decades now and currently have 9 hardware synths. It's just a different way of working and, for me, the ability to turn knobs, press keys, etc. without having to stare at a monitor or be tethered to a mouse is much more inspirational way of working. Also, I don't care how many people try to tell you that software can perfectly emulate analog synths, I'm not buying it. But, that doesn't mean analog is better, just different. I have no qualms about using soft synths, samplers, romplers, or even virtual analog hardware (I also own a Virus and a Micro Q). Hell, I'll even admit that Rob Papen's Blue and Spectrasonics Atmosphere (a software rompler) are still two of my favorite "synths" of all time, and that includes hardware or software.

My comments above had nothing to do with hardware being better than software. What I'm saying is that, all these newbies act like deadmau5 is some freaking genius who has invented a revolutionary new sound, when the fact of the matter is that I can punch my way through the factory presets on my Voyager and find almost, if not exactly, the same sounds that he uses, and many of those (or similar) sounds can be found on Moogs from 30 years ago. And, yes, I can emulate those sounds very convincingly in my Mopho or Prophet 08, my Virus, and even many of my soft synths, but if you want the real deadmau5 sound, get a Moog.

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He is a good marketing ploy, if he says 'i use ...... for my bass', everyone will rush out and buy it whether he uses it or not

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Keep in mind that Deadmau5 judging from one of his youtube videos uses external mastering done by professionals who mixdowns each channel for him.

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Far out some of the stuff in this thread could get me worked up... If I took internets seriously.

1/ Don't sound like Deadmau5, he killed his own sound, which takes some effort. You don't need to bandwagon jump, because the bandwagon's already full of Joel and I think even he realises it.

2/ His music IS extremely well engineered. He took it too far, but he really knows how to use very simple elegant sounds to get a great impact. Don't disrespect that.

3/ Hardware will not make you sound like him. The fact that he has hardware is not the reason for his success. FFS. You can make the sounds in software well enough, its just that they aren't presets on software, it actually takes effort.

4/ Ry Thomas makes a very good point. I brought it up in another similar thread that its been claimed that deadmau5 used no less than 3 or 4 different synths for his signature sound, and I've heard convincing reproductions on another 5, hardware AND software. What it proves is that it doesn't matter what he uses, and he knows it. People started off saying he used a nord, then said he used a voyager, now he claims that he uses an FXpansion synth which isn't even releaed yet. Smells fishy to me...

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Faxing berlin lead was v station , or maybe its hardware equivalent preset retro 5 , arped and sidechained , i started to remix it , but halfway through i changed to pjanoo.

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