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Originally posted by SgtFoo SOCAN does not handle registrations for copyright.. SOCAN handles royalties and such. See: http://www.cipo.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/c.../h_wr00003.html ^the Canadian Intellectual Property Office.

You're right of course. It's generally SOCAN whom you want to call if you have an infringement case, but registrations are directly with CIPO.

Not sure how I managed to get that mixed up, seeing as how SOCAN isn't even government-run. Brain fart.

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As an artist you just don't send out your music before release. Or just very little before the actual release date. Problem solved.

Any type of intellectual property is copyrighted by default. Either by the person that developed/made the product or the company it was developed in. If you're smart enough to keep the music to yourself you can't run into any problems at all, nobody has your music, nobody can infringe your copyright. Furthermore the risk of ending up in such a copyright infringement case is virtually null. As soon as the track is released it serves as evidence you own the intellectual rights to that track.

Copyright offices are bullshit as you can make sure no infringement (before the release of your track) will take place all by yourself. Thus it doesn't have to cost you anything. Amongst this there are other legal ways which are way cheaper to prove you owned a track before others did. That's ultimately what it comes down to IF you run into any problems, which is not likely at all.

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Last edited by Storyteller on Feb-09-2009 at 07:00

My boss gave me this idea:
You can give yourself copyright infringement insurance, is to burn your track and project files to a disk, seal it up in an envelope, and mail it to yourself via certified mail, and just leave it at that. Anyone tries to steal your sh!t, the government basically says that it was in existence, because you sent it to yourself and transitively had it processed by a governmental agency.

...Of course this could be a completely bullsh!t idea, but it sounds pretty legit, heh.

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Originally posted by ReclusNdangrmnt ...Of course this could be a completely bullsh!t idea, but it sounds pretty legit, heh.

It is legit . Just make sure you keep the envelope untouched.

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If less is more think about how much more more would be. -Frasier

All this confusion over how many tracks can be copyrighted at once makes me wonder if you couldn't send a flash drive with hundreds of songs on it for registration. This will make you look smart and cost-effective.

Has anyone tried this yet?

My friend suggested I license my tracks under Creative Commons (www.creativecommons.org)

Otherwise, if you expect your track to be a big success (especially commercially) then it probably would make sense to get a registered copyright.

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Originally posted by ReclusNdangrmnt My boss gave me this idea: You can give yourself copyright infringement insurance, is to burn your track and project files to a disk, seal it up in an envelope, and mail it to yourself via certified mail, and just leave it at that. Anyone tries to steal your sh!t, the government basically says that it was in existence, because you sent it to yourself and transitively had it processed by a governmental agency. ...Of course this could be a completely bullsh!t idea, but it sounds pretty legit, heh.

it is bs.

Like the other person said, unless you have substantial amount of money to loose , it isn't something you should worry about. Unfortunately the opposite situation , having alot to gain , doesn't quite work out in the same manner. Having alot to gain means someone has alot to loose and on average, the person with the potential loss has more money , better lawyers , and by sheer nature of the legal system, you won't ever end up on top.

Last edited by RichieV on Apr-25-2009 at 23:47

You copyright stuff so you arn't sued.

If I write a book, and i give it away with no legal copyright. Someone else can take it, copyright it in the legal system, then sue me for giving it away. Its happened with people I know. Also with music. Practical applications of copyright have little to nothing to do with whether people will download it or not. People will pirate your stuff. That is a fact, and no system can stop them. But with that said you still don't leave it alone, because of the aforementioned reasons.

"Ego" is how a person sees themselves. I have no clue how you thought I was talking about ego.

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Last edited by cronodevir on Apr-26-2009 at 00:57

that was strange. I apologize. I glossed over your post and thought your point was that copyright is essential so you can say it is yours. I thought you saw it as a means to basically say something is yours and that in itself was the ultimate goal. I missed a few details that make my previous post silly. My bad.

IN the previous post you just made, you mentioned legal right. Are you aware of what that actually means?

Last edited by RichieV on Apr-26-2009 at 01:00

Come on, I'm not that daft :P

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Originally posted by ******** In Canada all artistic works are copyrighted by default, including musical productions. That is one benefit of writing in Canada - copyright by default. For Canada it is royalties that matter, which means having material in use by others, and joining an agency like SOCAN, unless you are a comercial producer on contract, or employed by a music sales firm. http://www.socan.ca/jsp/en/about/me..._Background.jsp

same rule applies in the states. Once you make something, you legally own the copyright to it. Sounds great in theory.