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teufel-man
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It's both.

Standard midi (created in 1983) allows values up to 7 bits to be sent. For a knob or slider, that means you can only transmit values from 0-127, which is why the precision is hard to work with.

14-bit midi is an extension that allows you to use much more granular values, but both the controller and the software have to support it.


Thanks!

Do you know of a 14- bit midi controller off the top of your head? What about something like the xone 3d/4d?

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anybody successed with it? how to get the perfect mix in this software? im planning yo buy it but not before this is solved.

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Ryan0751
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The Xponent has a 14-bit pitch fader. The other sliders are 7-bit I guess.

I bet the new vestax vcm-300 is another one.

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Thanks!

Do you know of a 14- bit midi controller off the top of your head? What about something like the xone 3d/4d?

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teufel-man
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anybody successed with it? how to get the perfect mix in this software? im planning yo buy it but not before this is solved.


Same here... thats basically why I started this thread! I've used traktor and the pitch resolution is basically the only thing I dont like about it; fairly big problem though, if you cant get a solid mix then the software is basically useless!

Theres gotta be a way to solve this! otherwise there wouldn't be so many international DJs using this software... I was hoping there was just some setting you could change to improve the pitch resolution.

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Same here... thats basically why I started this thread! I've used traktor and the pitch resolution is basically the only thing I dont like about it; fairly big problem though, if you cant get a solid mix then the software is basically useless!

Theres gotta be a way to solve this! otherwise there wouldn't be so many international DJs using this software... I was hoping there was just some setting you could change to improve the pitch resolution.


Honestly, I've been using for some time, and I've never had a problem with the pitch resolution, and I always perform long transitions (3+ mins). Add to that that I'm using multiple decks. No offence but, maybe you should just learn to mix properly?

(Hint: Use the pitch bend, it's not decoration)


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teufel-man
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No offence but, maybe you should just learn to mix properly?

(Hint: Use the pitch bend, it's not decoration)


Dear asshole, I don't actually use traktor on my setup, I am using CDJs currently and I know how to mix/pitch bend properly...

one of my buddies has it.... and I am just getting used to how it works. The problem is, since the pitch resolution is poor, you have to pitch bend quite often, and the tiny ass pitch bending buttons on the VCM-100 are a pain in the ass, especially when you gotta use them every 5 seconds

Obviously I can do a 3-min mix on traktor, just with the current pitch resolution it takes a lot more effort than it should...

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Dear asshole


Fine, offence was taken it seems. Sorry.

Anyways, I still don't have that problem. And no, you don't have to pitch bend every 5 seconds, at least I don't.

In either case, you can use the sync button, it's not illegal, regardless of what the people in here would have you think.


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Fine, offence was taken it seems. Sorry.

Anyways, I still don't have that problem. And no, you don't have to pitch bend every 5 seconds, at least I don't.

In either case, you can use the sync button, it's not illegal, regardless of what the people in here would have you think.


I was using Traktor yesturday.... and when you have the beatgrids mapped out properly and use the master clock feature and slave thing, the beatmatching actually works out quite well. Its just like the 1 out of 10 song where for whatever reason, traktor cant seem to sync them up properyly, when you try to do it manually the poor pitch resolution makes it hard to get it right on and leads to you having to do a lot of pitch bending, and I find the pitch bending function on traktor pretty annoying to use... it isnt smooth like cdj1000s or anything... whatever maybe its just the controller I was using.

Regardless, it would still be nice to see the pitch resolution increased from .1 as this is the level of pitch resolution for low-end CDJs

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I don't want to start a flame-war so I'll just say that, yes, a better pitch-resolution would be preferable.


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Originally posted by Ryan0751
The Xponent has a 14-bit pitch fader. The other sliders are 7-bit I guess.

I bet the new vestax vcm-300 is another one.


The VCI-300 is 14 bit.. and super precise ... locks down a mix all day long .

edit: i use the vci-300 just like cdj's .. after starting the track , i use the pitch slider to match. when i want to fine tune if the track starts drifting, i just rub my finger on the outside of the platter to speed up or slow down. adjust fader. done.

I would say the vci-300 pitch resolution is .02 - .05 . Once they are matched, I rarely ever have to adjust.

Jay

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teufel-man
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I don't want to start a flame-war so I'll just say that, yes, a better pitch-resolution would be preferable.


No war! I do agree that as a whole the current pitch resolution/beatmatching system works more than fine, just that for Traktor to be considered flawless, they should increase the pitch resolution as it would be helpful in certain situations.

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