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Originally posted by Q5echo "Obama might as well have made either Bush or Cheney his War on Terror Czar" the left's silence on that is too funny. welcome to a brand new age in hypocrisy in political discourse

hypocrisy?? WHy are the Republicans all up in arms about spending, yet, when we had to spend $12 billion a month for these stupid wars, they'r lock step?

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Originally posted by Q5echo the left's silence on that is too funny. welcome to a brand new age in hypocrisy in political discourse

It's not a new age of hypocrisy, it's the same age. The only difference is that the actors have switched rols.

I trust Obama, and by extension his team, much much more than I trusted Bush or his team. Obama is much more intelegent and has a better grasp of issues with a much more broad understanding of how things are tied together in the big picture.

What I've seen already is frustration on his face. I'm not sure he was ready for the difficulties of consensus building when a good 1/3 of the people he's dealing with are actively against the notion of concensus (on both extremes of the spectrum).

That said, the way I can see him makeing any type of power grab as the Right seems to be so terrified of is by acting out of frustration to get things done that he sees as being 'right'.

My fear is that some of the things he sees as 'right' are right. The US is in a dire situation and actions are required, yet actions without concensus are authoritarian. So does one support an authoritarian edict that is in thier own interest...???

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Originally posted by Krypton hypocrisy?? WHy are the Republicans all up in arms about spending, yet, when we had to spend $12 billion a month for these stupid wars, they'r lock step?

You're either with us, or your against us!

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Originally posted by Q5echo i read the Weekly Standard often, thats probably where i got the quote but i cant say for sure. i read all kinds of stuff. one article recently that stands out to me regarding this i read in the IHT >LINK<

Stephen Walt:

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David Brooks fails the "Big Test" Tue, 02/24/2009 - 11:28am David Brooks's insight and intellectual integrity have never impressed me much, but his column in today's NY Times is a low mark even for him. After reminding us that he read Edmund Burke in college and used to be a liberal, he announces that the fate of Obama’s programs will be "the big test" between liberal and conservative views of the world. Liberals supposedly believe in human reason and the capacity of government to conduct transformative solutions; conservatives are "epistemologically modest" and skeptical of "top-down" initiatives. Here's the money quote: quote: We're on the cusp of the biggest political experiment of our lifetimes. If Obama is mostly successful, then the epistemological skepticism natural to conservatives will have been discredited...If they mostly fail, then liberalism will suffer a grievous blow, and conservatives will be called upon to restore order and sanity." Such shamelessly partisan pseudo-intellectualism is Brooks's stock-in-trade, but where he's been the past eight years? George W. Bush and the GOP conservatives inherited a strong economy and a budget surplus, and a country whose international image was mostly favorable. And then they squandered them all with a thoroughness that almost seems deliberate. There was no "epistemological modesty" involved when Bush placed loyalty above competence and let lobbyists and other special interests loose in Washington, or when he launched a foolish and ill-planned war in an attempt to transform the entire Middle East. And let us not forget that Brooks himself was an enthusiastic supporter of these policies; I guess he forgot his Burke back when his party was in power. The result of these "conservative" policies, as we all know to our sorrow, is the most serious combination of domestic and foreign policy challenges to face America in decades. But if Obama fails to clean up the mess left by his predecessor, it is "liberalism" that will have failed. Huh?

http://walt.foreignpolicy.com/posts...ls_the_big_test

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Bush wasn't conservative remember?

All those people who voted for him were fooled apparently. They also did not know he wasn't conservative until the election last year.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.