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Originally posted by EgosXII .. i've always preferred melody, and solid bass to an in your face kick...

Same here. I sometimes get annoyed by kicks (and snares/claps) that are too present and overpower the track.

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This can all be summed up simply as personal preference, i love having an in your face kick and just overall fairly loud percussive elements, some people like to keep things more minimal. To each his own, as long as the final product is good.

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Originally posted by Stef This can all be summed up simply as personal preference, i love having an in your face kick and just overall fairly loud percussive elements, some people like to keep things more minimal. To each his own, as long as the final product is good.

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Originally posted by psymon.d quote: Originally posted by Stef This can all be summed up simply as personal preference, i love having an in your face kick and just overall fairly loud percussive elements, some people like to keep things more minimal. To each his own, as long as the final product is good.

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I'm currently making a track with no percussion at all,though i may add a very light feathery kick in it, now that i get the idea.

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If u think percussions are important you will have good percussions, alot of people dont care or pay attention to them at all.

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I know I spend like half of the time I have been producing desperately trying to learn how to make a big massive kick or really snappy snares and for what eh? So armin van buuren can play snowpatrol remixes with an inaudible kick. I for one a bucking the trend my kicks will always be there.

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Originally posted by Sonic_c So armin van buuren can play snowpatrol remixes with an inaudible kick.

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Originally posted by Stef This can all be summed up simply as personal preference, i love having an in your face kick and just overall fairly loud percussive elements, some people like to keep things more minimal. To each his own, as long as the final product is good.

I'm partial to this sentiment, with the following addendum:

I think it really depends on what is called for, in the song. Some songs I've written, have a very prominent kick drum and others have it more sedately placed. I tend towards transparent kicks, myself, meaning one can hear the initial kiss, and the oomph in the 40-200Hz range lasts a while longer with other parts being heard in the ranges above that. Those kicks are a little more sparse, so far as their density in the track is concerned, than kicks that occur more frequently, in which case I tend to let them occupy some more of the register above 300Hz.

Examples of how I am differentiating kicks:

Mine:

http://www.mediafire.com/?lnwjmnzwytj - Low end, transparent, infrequent.


My remix of Art of Trance's:

http://www.mediafire.com/?njjutrzhumm - More present in upper registers, less transparent, and more frequent.

EDIT: To credit, appropriately.

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Originally posted by Stef ...i love having an in your face kick and just overall fairly loud percussive elements, some people like to keep things more minimal.

Not that I disagree with you, but to many, the term "minimal" usually implies sparse, which is not necessarily the opposite of "loud". For example, one can build a dense wall of rhythm sounds that is set fairly low in the mix and, conversely, one can have a very sparse drum arrangement with only 2 or 3 elements (e.g., kick, snare, hihat) that are mixed and EQ'ed so loud that they consume most of the mix. I think that when you wrote "minimal" you were referring to volume, but I guess my point is that the density/sparseness of the drum arrangement is a separate, but related and equally important, element of drum mixes that is also worthy of consideration.

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The drums usually take up most of my mix. Sometimes I have the kick really hard and punchy, sometimes I have it low and rumbling with a really long decay and harmonics over the top. Sometimes the song with morph from one drum palette to another and back again.

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What are weak drums?

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