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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox Did you listen to that sample? The clipping is so bad on my speakers its hard to hear the synth. Sounds like someones making popcorn =]

Lol, yeah, ive not mastered the cubase master channel yet. [pun intended]

edit: then again, how loud are your speakers? I have to play it incredibly loud to notice anything.

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Originally posted by cronodevir Lol, yeah, ive not mastered the cubase master channel yet. [pun intended]

In Cubase you can really easy see if your track is clipping. Below the masterchannel wil light up a red light (that you can't miss) if clipping occurs. You can just put a limiter on the master to avoid that.

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Originally posted by cronodevir edit: then again, how loud are your speakers? I have to play it incredibly loud to notice anything.

LOL, pretty logic that if you play a track really loud that you will get distortion

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WHOA

Cubase has what is called "freezemode" so after you make a big layer, you can ptu each section into freeze mode for the time being, and work on other parts of the track, if you have to make an edit [to say, automation] then you can unfreeze it, make the editor, and freeze it again...you can pretty much layer as much as you want and almost no cpu load.

When you freeze a track, its the same as rendering it with all the automation fx and all that goodness, so it is basicly rendering to wav, but its all done with one button. And after you have the automation done why else do you really need to have it active?

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So far its GPO Violin Shorts and Pizzicato, Synth1 and A Superwave P8 pad I am working on. CPU load is like 15% [Synth1 and GPO are frozen, aswell as their FX channels]

Sorry FLStudio users, Ive been a fan for going on 7 years, but this feature alone in Cubase smashes FL

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Last edited by cronodevir on Apr-01-2009 at 16:14

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox I take 2 kicks, usually not the same, and I pan the subs from one to one side and the his/mids from another kick to the other side. If I go left with the subs, then I know to go right with my bass and left with my main lead. I usually don't pan full though, the sub I may pan 80% left and the hi/mid kick 50% right. I usually only do that if I don't feel like sidechaining the bass and in the final mix its not so obvious to tell theres 2 kicks. Just what works best for me to keep everything clean and tidy.

Hmmm. Never heard of panning the kicks and can't understand why you would. At least in EDM, the kick really should be down the middle so panning the sub (which if anywhere, should be down the middle itself) just seems like a great way to fuck your element separation and have a imbalanced mix?

"Left with your bass?" Am I missing something? Again down the middle, or in some case panned totally to the sides for that effect, but to one side? especially not by 80%.

Maybe if you're panning real drums to emulate the kit, you might pan the elements to give you either drummers perspective or control room perspective but even then the kick is down the middle and the bass would be there too.

I'm just curious, why do you do this?

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Originally posted by cronodevir WHOA Cubase has what is called "freezemode" so after you make a big layer, you can ptu each section into freeze mode for the time being, and work on other parts of the track, if you have to make an edit [to say, automation] then you can unfreeze it, make the editor, and freeze it again...you can pretty much layer as much as you want and almost no cpu load. When you freeze a track, its the same as rendering it with all the automation fx and all that goodness, so it is basicly rendering to wav, but its all done with one button. And after you have the automation done why else do you really need to have it active?

In the years ive been using Cubase ive never used the freeze function, because you cant do anything with the freezed audio.. nothing!
So i just export to audio with one click of a button and mute the channel instead.. so then i can atleast do all i want with the rendered audio.

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You can do the same thing with a .wav as you can with a Frozen Synth they are the same thing. Plus manually doing all the work would add 10 minutes to a 2 second job.

With a .wav all you can change is volume and panning.. Same with frozen synths.

Also, muting the channel does absolutely nothing, everything still loads, and the CPU usage stays the same. You mute a vsti, but that vsti still processes every note, and all those FX still process, despite being muted.







Its getting better.

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Originally posted by cronodevir You can do the same thing with a .wav as you can with a Frozen Synth they are the same thing. Plus manually doing all the work would add 10 minutes to a 2 second job. With a .wav all you can change is volume and panning.. Same with frozen synths. Also, muting the channel does absolutely nothing, everything still loads, and the CPU usage stays the same. You mute a vsti, but that vsti still processes every note, and all those FX still process, despite being muted.

It takes me 3 seconds to render to Wav (i have a shortcut keycommand for audio mixdown)
As for CPU.. well i never run out so thats not a problem.

And i dont know what version you are using, but on version 3 you cannot do anything at all with the frozen file.. absolutely nothing!

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SX3, I can change the panning, the volume, input/output and the mute lol...what else do I need? If i need to change automation/fx/synth i just hit unfreeze.

[edit, you know we are arguing about the same thing only we do it differently right?]

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Originally posted by cronodevir SX3, I can change the panning, the volume, input/output and the mute lol...what else do I need? If i need to change automation/fx/synth i just hit unfreeze. [edit, you know we are arguing about the same thing only we do it differently right?]

Can you copy the file ? can you add effects to it ? can u actually change the location of it ? can you cut it ? can you automate the volume on it ?

IMO freezing sucks, but if you can live with it.. good for you.

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Originally posted by Subtle Can you copy the file ? can you add effects to it ? can u actually change the location of it ? can you cut it ? can you automate the volume on it ? IMO freezing sucks, but if you can live with it.. good for you.

Yes, you can do all of that. You have to hit Unfreeze first.


Also, don't run out of CPU my ass. Either you don't use synths, or you are lying. Go open 10 z3ta's and Battery 3 and tell me you still have CPU power.

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Originally posted by cronodevir Yes, you can do all of that. You have to hit Unfreeze first.

Thats why my method is better. Export to audio and hit disable on the plugin. Full control over everything.

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My method takes two clicks to freeze and one click to unfreeze, I bet its less clicks than yours. :P

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