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Originally posted by cronodevir So how do you glitch an incoming signal without a glitch FX?

That is a topic that I've tried several times to write about without much success. It's very hard to put into words and seems to be more of an art than an exact science. The "how" really isn't that difficult, it's the "what" that stumps people, and sometimes you just have to experiment. And honestly, it's a lot of f*ckin' work even when you're in practice.

I could post examples here, but it seems silly just to prove a point... but if there's a genuine interest then there's plenty of material I can dig up from my own tracks, with glitch, without glitch, and various hybrids.

It isn't just glitches, incidentally - a lot of ambient effects I add use offline processing heavily, because it's far too expensive to heap on 20 reverbs and delays and filters and pitch shifts in real-time, and even if it weren't, doing the automation would be death.

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I know psy at the very least is entirely possible to make without any samples whatsoever.

The kick you can make just with a synth and eq's, and the rest is fx, bass and leads which are all synths too.

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Originally posted by DigiNut That is a topic that I've tried several times to write about without much success. It's very hard to put into words and seems to be more of an art than an exact science. The "how" really isn't that difficult, it's the "what" that stumps people, and sometimes you just have to experiment. And honestly, it's a lot of f*ckin' work even when you're in practice. I could post examples here, but it seems silly just to prove a point... but if there's a genuine interest then there's plenty of material I can dig up from my own tracks, with glitch, without glitch, and various hybrids. It isn't just glitches, incidentally - a lot of ambient effects I add use offline processing heavily, because it's far too expensive to heap on 20 reverbs and delays and filters and pitch shifts in real-time, and even if it weren't, doing the automation would be death.

I know "how", you render the synth stuff to wav. But ive never found a situation where side-effects and limitations of rendering to wav, was worth the effects you could add to it afterwords.

I am sure it sounds contrived, but i'm fascinated people actually do this. Untill you, in all 10 or so years of doing music ive never heard of anyone using wavs for anything but percussion[not counting people who obviosly HAVE to use wavs [recording a violin for instance]], and even then everyone I know makes their own percussion or uses a drum machine with samples. Infact most documents ive read actually suggest to not do that heh

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Last edited by cronodevir on Apr-06-2009 at 01:45

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Originally posted by cronodevir I know "how", you render the synth stuff to wav.

How to make the stutter and glitch effects, not how to bounce a track... I thought that was obvious.

If you've been producing for 10 years then I'm actually shocked that you've never done any direct editing or even seen it done. Come on man, there was a time when all we had was samples, and the majority of producing was done by physically splicing actual tape. Delays, flangers, phasers, all of the bread-and-butter effects producers use all came from that world. We may not be stuck working with magnetic tape anymore but it's important to understand the techniques of cutting, splicing, and processing in the digital domain.

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late the party but only now have tried glitch after reading about it in this thread... when used properly it does seem to save a lot of time... even if audio editing is still more precise. That said I probably won't use it much

Lol Ive seen tape before, you can give it a phasor effect by bending :P I just don't know many who still use wavs if they can avoid it. This is why I like the freeze feature in cubase, you can get that effect without actually having to bounce wavs and deal with all that.

As for the glitch stuff yeah you do use wavs [if you don't use dblue glitch] actually right now I am slicing a vocal sample and sending it to a vocoder for making spiffy rythmic cycles and such. But I wouldn't have thought of doing it to a synth., because I can just use midi to make a glitchy effect. That and dblue glitch.

dblue glitch is actually pretty spiffy as long as you don't just use random all the time.

A clip of what I am doing.


This is actually very old, i'm remaking this song, but i'm keeping the vocal rhythmic thingy relatively the same.

more:

http://www.tindeck.com/listen/yfdd
http://www.tindeck.com/listen/qqxn
Song is originally mine.

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Last edited by cronodevir on Apr-06-2009 at 04:37