There's actually a specific age range, after which a person will never fully lose their original country's accent. From memory, it's up to around 12 years old, but that can vary from person to person.
I'll try and find one of the studies done.
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Apr-13-2009 22:29
woscar
Starstuff
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Guatemala, Guatemala
What I find really hilarious is people I know from here that have went to the US and stayed there for a couple of years and then return speaking with an accent and acting like they forgot a lot of words in Spanish.
I always make fun of them straight to their faces.
Originally posted by tachobg
the amount of accent seems to depend on who I'm talking to. I've spoken english for 12 years but I tend to subconsciously slip into a slight eastern-european accent whenever I'm speaking with someone else who's native language is not english. But when I'm giving a talk in a class for example, I don't have much of an accent, if any. This might just be an imitation of certain reinforced beliefs/instincts about what is appropriate or common in each situation.
In her case, it might be some aspect of her identity that she subconsciously keeps alive.
i can see that. and you know how madonna moved to england and she is sort of made fun of for having a slight english accent? i don't see what the big deal is. i think if i moved to england for like 7 years or something, and every day i was talking with brits and became really familiar with the lingo and stuff, i'd probably catch myself talking with a brit accent too. it's just a matter of how adaptable you are.
i'm a very adaptable person so i think if i was born in colombia and moved to america when i was 10, i'd probably have zero spanish accent by the time i was in my 20s.
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Apr-13-2009 22:29
nchs09
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Inside your mum
quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
There's actually a specific age range, after which a person will never fully lose their original country's accent. From memory, it's up to around 12 years old, but that can vary from person to person.
I'll try and find one of the studies done.
I think thats more about learning a new language with ease because of development of the brain.
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Apr-13-2009 22:31
Chaska
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Registered: Oct 2006
Location: NYC
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Originally posted by Slylee
i know that, but she is in her 40s now and that's plenty of time to pronounce things the "american way" you know what i mean?
i'm not being biggoted or anything i'm just honestly curious and wanted to see what some of you would say because i know a lot of ppl here are bilingual. my own boyfriend is french-canadian and has been living in america for 7 years. before he dated me, he had only french-canadian girlfriends and friends and even in his line of work, he mostly works for the frenchies, so he never really had to practice english much. he still has an accent and has a hard time saying words.
I once worked with a German lady who was like 55 y.o. when I met her. She came to the US when she was 12 and still has a German accent (however subtle) to this day. My mum is 50 y.o. and still has a slight accent, even though she learned English since very young and her dad is British. I guess that's why it's called the "Mother tongue", heh. When older it's just more difficult to get rid of the accent.
Apr-13-2009 22:34
Omega_Blue
Someone Changed My Custom
Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Gone
quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
There's actually a specific age range, after which a person will never fully lose their original country's accent. From memory, it's up to around 12 years old, but that can vary from person to person.
I'll try and find one of the studies done.
i disagree, immersion and training should be able to kill an accent imo, then again i wouldn't know for sure being that i'm not a cunning linguist
Apr-13-2009 22:35
winston
ultraviolet catastrophe
Registered: Nov 2005
Location: Yggdrasill
listen woman you worry about ridiculous details, whaa? you are going to tell me that having an accent is bothersome.
I prefer a nice foreign accent than a plain boring old american yank accent.
Apr-13-2009 22:36
Sushipunk
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Registered: Sep 2006
Location: Chateau Verdafloor
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Originally posted by nchs09
I think thats more about learning a new language with ease because of development of the brain.
Yeah, I might have it confused with that. I do remember something specifically related to accents though, from my Psych classes. Stupid brain!
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Apr-13-2009 22:36
Zeiter
living in GU!
Registered: May 2004
Location: Canlombia
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Originally posted by Slylee
i can see that. and you know how madonna moved to england and she is sort of made fun of for having a slight english accent? i don't see what the big deal is. i think if i moved to england for like 7 years or something, and every day i was talking with brits and became really familiar with the lingo and stuff, i'd probably catch myself talking with a brit accent too. it's just a matter of how adaptable you are.
i'm a very adaptable person so i think if i was born in colombia and moved to america when i was 10, i'd probably have zero spanish accent by the time i was in my 20s.
Jamie, it's easier to get an accent of the same language!! Same thing if I go to France for a couple years, it's easier to start talking like them then having 0 french accent when I speak english.
Apr-13-2009 22:37
Slylee
love lockdown
Registered: May 2001
Location: Hollywood, FL
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Originally posted by winston
listen woman you worry about ridiculous details, whaa? you are going to tell me that having an accent is bothersome.
I prefer a nice foreign accent than a plain boring old american yank accent.
it's not bothersome! i was just wondering if she truly cannot get rid of the accent, or if she has a sense of pride from being colombian that she wants everyone to know she is colombian, that's all.
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Apr-13-2009 22:43
bas
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Here I Am Baby
Losing your accent is something you have to work at. Just because she's been in the country and speaking fluent English for a number of years is irrelevant. You have to change the way your vocals chords work and everything
Anytime I was in Egypt for long amounts of time I'd come back with an accent and not even know it, I had to consciously tell myself to drop the accent until it went away. Really weird.
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Apr-13-2009 22:46
Slylee
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Hollywood, FL
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Originally posted by bas
Losing your accent is something you have to work at. Just because she's been in the country and speaking fluent English for a number of years is irrelevant. You have to change the way your vocals chords work and everything
Anytime I was in Egypt for long amounts of time I'd come back with an accent and not even know it, I had to consciously tell myself to drop the accent until it went away. Really weird.
ok then you just proved my point. you go to another country for a "visit" and come back with an accent. this chick has been living here and married to an american for 10+ years, and she still has an accent.
*edit* damn ok u said long amounts of time. but how long were they? if it was under a year then yea, u proved my point
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