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Originally posted by rabbitjoker The tariff request impacts WHOLESALE DSL customers (i.e. non-Bell DSL users). The tariff request is punitive action on Bell's part because the CRTC ordered them to stop traffic shaping/filtering. It's a bad trend overall because we should be moving away from this type of crap and on to faster speeds, wider pipes.

ah gotcha, thanks for the clarification

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Originally posted by jon jon done.

+1 and i told them i worked for Rogers too LoL

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done.

Bell already did this about 10 years ago when I was a customer (capping unlimited and charging for over-downloading), and it backfired. I moved to Aurora Cable Internet. They got rid of it after about a year, but I stayed on with ACI (now Rogers).

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker the CRTC ordered them to stop traffic shaping/filtering.

Cable companies too? Is this why my torrents are lightning fast compared to last summer?

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Yup, I submitted a comment too. They better reject it...

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker The tariff request is punitive action on Bell's part because the CRTC ordered them to stop traffic shaping/filtering.

Sorry, but I believe Bell won the right to keep shaping. I think the ruling stated that Bell could continue to shape, because they were doing it to their wholesalers and actual customers as well. Are we misunderstanding each other?

Done...

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done. Man is that www ever slow!

Good thing im on cogeco SOHO, 120GB baby


still crappy in comparison to cheap 10/100/1000 mbit in Netherlands, Sweden and many other euro countries

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Originally posted by Orko This is what happens when infrastructure companies also become media companies. if you are downloading what you could be viewing through a Bell PVR, how are they going to make money? Fuck you bell, and the subsidized horse you came in on.

This, a thousand times this

They should split bell up into a few different companies like they did in the states years ago. They're too big and powerful.

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Originally posted by Orko Sorry, but I believe Bell won the right to keep shaping. I think the ruling stated that Bell could continue to shape, because they were doing it to their wholesalers and actual customers as well. Are we misunderstanding each other?

One of the main problems was that Bell was shaping wholesalers more than they were their own customers and not offering the same Rx/Tx speeds they themselves offered.

CRTC required Telecom providers (Bell/Telus/etc.) to provide ISPs with wholesale service speeds that match those that they offer to their own retail customers.

So yes, you are correct (and more specific [IMO] than needed in this case).

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