I guess i didn't get that memo. If you really are interested in knowing my reservations to the system in more detail and are not just looking to start some petty internet debate that ends up 12 pages long, well let me know and i would be happy to go into more detail.
Apr-22-2009 22:55
pkcRAISTLIN
arbiter's chief minion
Registered: Jul 2002
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Originally posted by RichieV
laws of music ?
I guess i didn't get that memo. If you really are interested in knowing my reservations to the system in more detail and are not just looking to start some petty internet debate that ends up 12 pages long, well let me know and i would be happy to go into more detail.
yeah, music has laws. some can be bent, others broken. but im honestly curious as to why giving DJs a simple tool in order to make their mixes sound better is a "waste of time".
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Apr-23-2009 00:35
RichieV
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Aug 2003
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Are you sure you have the right person ? I never said such thing.
And i think you are confusing laws with guidelines.
Apr-23-2009 01:06
pkcRAISTLIN
arbiter's chief minion
Registered: Jul 2002
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
Are you sure you have the right person ? I never said such thing.
quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
I personally think djs that harmonically mix are wasting their time
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Originally posted by RichieV
And i think you are confusing laws with guidelines.
laws, rules, guidelines. call them whatever you want.
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Apr-23-2009 06:11
Domesticated
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Feb 2007
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quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
I personally think djs that harmonically mix are wasting their time
You just destroyed any shred of credibility you may have had prior to entering this thread.
Why do you think all the top DJs mix harmonically?
Hint: it's not because they're looking for an extra challenge in their day-to-day work.
Apr-23-2009 06:14
elFreak
Blood Diamonds and Salsa
Registered: Feb 2008
Location: With Juan Pachanga Eating Tacos. Ah Ha Si Mi Gusta.
while i am not trying to stir the pot, ALL is a big word to use domesticated
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Guatemala, Guatemala
quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
yeah, music has laws. some can be bent, others broken. but im honestly curious as to why giving DJs a simple tool in order to make their mixes sound better is a "waste of time".
Because the "tool" makes things easier for them and tools that make things easier for you are a big no-no in the DJ world. I bet you got THAT memo.
Why do you think all the top DJs mix harmonically?
you sure about that one ?
my feelings about wether it was a waste of time are irrelevant. I supported people trying to learn which i clearly stated but you chose to ignore and the whole impetus to my original post is that if you want to learn something, why not learn it properly. It is unfortunate you have to take words out of context to somehow try to school someone. Perhaps i was not clear enough for you, in that case i apologise but you definately aren't getting the jist of what i'm trying to say.
Apr-23-2009 22:13
pkcRAISTLIN
arbiter's chief minion
Registered: Jul 2002
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
you sure about that one ?
my feelings about wether it was a waste of time are irrelevant. I supported people trying to learn which i clearly stated but you chose to ignore and the whole impetus to my original post is that if you want to learn something, why not learn it properly. It is unfortunate you have to take words out of context to somehow try to school someone. Perhaps i was not clear enough for you, in that case i apologise but you definately aren't getting the jist of what i'm trying to say.
why learn it "properly" if im only using it for mixing? i key all my own tracks so i know they're correct and then i mix them correctly. exactly what would my performance gain from having "proper" knowledge of the circle of fifths?
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Apr-23-2009 23:17
Teezdalien
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jul 2007
Location: Melbourne, Australia
quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
why learn it "properly" if im only using it for mixing? i key all my own tracks so i know they're correct and then i mix them correctly. exactly what would my performance gain from having "proper" knowledge of the circle of fifths?
Not really a great deal, music theory is a lot more valuable in the production side of things.
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
why learn it "properly" if im only using it for mixing? i key all my own tracks so i know they're correct and then i mix them correctly. exactly what would my performance gain from having "proper" knowledge of the circle of fifths?
I'm not talking about circle of fifths. I think knowing how going from any key center to another and the emotional affect that has on people, that is what i consider important. You won't learn that from those tutorials.
Apr-23-2009 23:43
pkcRAISTLIN
arbiter's chief minion
Registered: Jul 2002
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
I'm not talking about circle of fifths. I think knowing how going from any key center to another and the emotional affect that has on people, that is what i consider important. You won't learn that from those tutorials.
no, you learn that by experimenting and working out what sounds good. and the camelot system helps in discovering that.
