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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J The old-schoolers may have given up on it, but I personally think 1996-1997 were the best years for trance. You had a few tracks like Children and Seven Days And One Week in the charts, but they sounded almost nothing like what was happening in progressive and goa trance in those years.

By all means, I'm not one of the oldschoolers who gave up on it either. My favourite kind of trance remains the darker progressive-ish stuff that came out around 98-00, such as this one, this one or this one.

I guess saying that the creativity "flatlined" in 96 is a bit harsh, but nevertheless, the lack of creativity in trance that seems to be the common consensus around here now set in long before 2003.

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Originally posted by qwerty Hmm whats a few examples i used to love: Traffic

You don't have my sympathy.

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper I guess saying that the creativity "flatlined" in 96 is a bit harsh, but nevertheless, the lack of creativity in trance that seems to be the common consensus around here now set in long before 2003.

I'd definitely agree, but my point is that the old schoolers who say trance had died by 1995 are, in many ways, just as blinkered as the epic trance fans who say it peaked in 1999. You just have to look at that Sasha tracklist in the other thread to see there was an adundance of truly fantastic trance even after Robert Miles.

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Yeah man you hit the nail on the head with those tunes. This is what i mean, they seem to have substance. I rarely ever find similar tunes to them these days.

Id just like to know why break a good thing.

PS the oldskoolers can suck my balls, I was an old skool gamer with an Atari but i cant say games were actually good until the Amiga generation.

In my opinion, 2004 was the beginning of the end.

Before that there we loads of cool trance coming out.

Then again i started listening to it in 98/99 so.

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So... Sorry to be an arse,

But reading between the lines here, Trance is dead? Atleast trance in its best form is dead? I just dont see how all of a sudden people forgot how to make trance music well.

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Originally posted by qwerty Id just like to know why break a good thing.

Personally, I believe that the whole idea of clubbing radically changed after dance music spent some time in the mainstream. The relentless hedonism of 90s clubbing was never a concept that could be embraced fully by a mainstream audience, and the ones who had already embraced it eventually got old and/or burnt out.

Thus, the music started changing to reflect this (i.e. techno's move towards minimalism, trance's tendency to hover around the mid-130 BPM-mark, DJs being perceived as rock stars and so on).

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If you liked Binary Finary 98, PVD, some of Tiesto (Traffic) and shit like that then there's a ton of stuff out there that you should like. You listen to 2 hours of who knows once after being out of the scene for a few years and declare trance dead, lol

Actually its not like that at all.

I didnt just stop listening to music and then decide id try it again. I have tried to actively seek out tunes during the past 3 years and im incredibly limited.

You get things like Dave Pearce trance 2008 and i have to say i liked alot of tunes on that but again all that is doing is putting old songs onto a CD and calling it a new 2008 compilation.

Almost anything with vocals is a mugs game, and if it aint got vocals it seems to be cheese.

Rarely a fan of the prodigy, i cant believe the best tune i have heard for atleast a year is "invaders must die" and as far as im concered, that is me literally scraping the edges of the bowl.

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Originally posted by qwerty Almost anything with vocals is a mugs game, and if it aint got vocals it seems to be cheese.

wat?

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Originally posted by Neo95gt wat?

He means that stuff like this is rotten garbage. DO U GET IT?

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Originally posted by RebeL9 He means that stuff like this is rotten garbage. DO U GET IT?

In your opinion maybe. Usually cheese is referred to vocal stuff that, not the other way around like he said.