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Originally posted by EgosXII answer for the whole thread i concur that cheese is in the patch, and if you're looking through patches for your lead there's your problem.

i don't think so.. "cheesy" has more to do with melody/harmony as with the sound/patches...

i also have this problem. i always make melodies too big/too complicated (in a cheesy way) which i find easier than making simple melodies.

I believe you should not worry too much about if your melody is "cheesy" or not. If it sounds good and portrays the picture you're trying to paint with your music then by all means use it. To me the melodies are a small part of a production because i have heard so many tracks with some of the minimalest of melodies and still have a grand effect overall.

I have a producing buddy who is a music major and is obsessed with trying to get the perfect melody that is very tonically complex. Sometimes I feel he comes up with nice melodies but his music is often not very danceable as he puts so much focus into the main melody & chord progression, leaving his music like a hot chick with no personality, absolutely boring.

Sometimes i feel people (like my buddy) just need to remember that there is a very very small chance of you making something that has not been made before when it comes to melodies.

I think what is more important is HOW you use that melody rather than WHAT melody you use or how "complex" or "fresh" it is. I believe its more about the effects, layering, modulation and progression of ALL the sounds in a production that really takes the cake because I've heard some of the simplest melodies in some tracks that work flawlessly because of how the track as a whole sounds & progresses.

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Originally posted by Nightshift Sometimes i feel people (like my buddy) just need to remember that there is a very very small chance of you making something that has not been made before when it comes to melodies.

Bullshit.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

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Originally posted by Beatflux Bullshit.

Just wait till you make a melody that you think is out of this world amazing & original only to find that there is a production with a closely similar melody line, if not the exact same

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Originally posted by Nightshift Just wait till you make a melody that you think is out of this world amazing & original only to find that there is a production with a closely similar melody line, if not the exact same

Has not happened to me yet.

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Originally posted by Nightshift Just wait till you make a melody that you think is out of this world amazing & original only to find that there is a production with a closely similar melody line, if not the exact same

I have, but this doesn't mean that there aren't any new melodies up for grabs. There are beyond quadrillions of combinations.

If it sounds familiar to you, then you'll know.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

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Originally posted by Subtle Has not happened to me yet.

maybe u just havent discovered it yet...

Nightshift: you are right.. but it's just so much easier to make a good, interesting track with catchy melody than a good track with little or no melody.

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Originally posted by Beatflux Bullshit.

there is some truth in what he said. Every melody you will ever think of has already been done in some genre in the last 200 years. Trust me, there is absolutely nothing you will ever think of that hasn't been thought of before. I think the only way to make something different now is the context of the melody. The production of the actual song in regards to the melody is really the only new thing you can do in music.

There is an infinite amounts of melodies to come up with.

Some melody lines will only sound cool with the right timbres, arrangement and choice of synth and effects etc etc etc...

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Originally posted by RichieV there is some truth in what he said. Every melody you will ever think of has already been done in some genre in the last 200 years. Trust me, there is absolutely nothing you will ever think of that hasn't been thought of before. I think the only way to make something different now is the context of the melody. The production of the actual song in regards to the melody is really the only new thing you can do in music.

Prove it.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

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Originally posted by Subtle There is an infinite amounts of melodies to come up with. Some melody lines will only sound cool with the right timbres, arrangement and choice of synth and effects etc etc etc...

trust me, they have all been done. There is a reason why people started exploring atonal music in the early 1900s. Tonal music has been explored as much as it ever will be. The only difference now is context. There really hasnt been any new "melodies" in any genre since the 1950s. The only thing changing in music now is aesthetic and context.

That is the reason why people criticize John Williams and pretty much every film composer because they really just repackage in a slightly different context melodies that have been done before.

But this should make you feel good that you are actually in a genre that can add something valuable to music in that production and the way a melody is presented is really what i suppose you could consider new. The actualy melody not so much.