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Originally posted by echosystm Lack of multicore support No auto PDC Poor hardware integration ...need I go on?

Aka, Bullshit no one cares about.

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Originally posted by cronodevir Aka, Bullshit no one cares about.

ROFL.

what is PDC?

also why did i click on a fruity loops thread

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Originally posted by mysticalninja what is PDC? also why did i click on a fruity loops thread

They seem to attract people like flies to shit.

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Originally posted by cronodevir Aka, Bullshit no one cares about.

OMGLMFAOROFLROFLROFLLOL

well it all comes down to what daw complements your stile of production.A term that is used in music witch holds true i think.

im using fl and acid pro. fl to make my sounds and acid to lay dawn and do all my arranging work.
this works for me and until it doesn't then a will make the change.

FL Studio is really just the one program people talk shit about because its actually FUN to use.

I used Reason for 3 years and my first week using FL I was hooked, even though I barely knew how to use it.
Cubases interface is also extremely boring, don't ask me why but when I open it up it looks more like something you do *WORK* on rather then something you have fun with.

Of course I'm sure all Cubase users here love the interface and think FL is more like some video game.
But with bias aside I will first say the whole "multicore support" thing is a bs excuse not to use it.
It DOES have multicore support for VSTS, not fxs but I never understood how that bothers people. Most of my projects even when I use A LOT of fxs the total CPU being pulled for fx is prob 20% from fx and 80% from vsts so I don't fucking care about the lame multicore arguement.

The ONE thing I do agree with is FL is not great at all for using with hardware. I plan on getting a TI sometime this summer and I may be switching to Cubase for that one reason.
And I also agree you NEED to learn the potential in FLs native plugins.
I went out getting all the best commercial vsts out there, and the sounds were better up untill the point I learned how to program synths myself, at which point I was astonished by what I could get out of 3osc alone.

I would def recommend FL ESPECIALLY if you're new.
Its much easier to adjust to for a newbie compared to Reason or Cubase. But still in the scheme of things you ideally want to "taste" all the DAWS out there and give them all a fair chance, because it does come down to personal taste and you can't find out till you try most of the more popular DAWS out there.

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Originally posted by echosystm Dude... The only reason Ableton, Reason and Cubase didn't work for you is because you wanted them to work exactly like FL. This is just stupid. Uhh... I'd actually say the major flaws in FL are probably the main reason people don't like it: Lack of multicore support No auto PDC Poor hardware integration ...need I go on?

Actually , In FL studio 8 There is so called 'multicore support'
There is a option called 'Multithreaded generator processing' , something like multicore support I guess

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Exacly. FLStudio (fruity loops is dead, let it rot in peace) has multicore support. Only the generators/vst's are seperated per core, but this is fine considering the host itself uses next to no cpu.

As far as multicore users are concerned, I agree most are using multicore PC's nowdays. It's quite obvious actually... and if your average gamer is using 2 or more cores, just think what a fellow producer is using... octo-core anyone?

And about the "bullshit no one cares about"....

PDC is plugin delay compensation and is an essential feature for anyone using VST's. In flstudio any vst effect with a latency makes the channel play late.

And the hardware support in FLstudio is total crap, making it a toy by developer's choice. No self respecting DAW can be without a realtime export function. It's like they want to stop people with any external gear from using it...
Other than that, it's an amazing DAW which can do pretty much anything; from crap sounds to professional tracks; depending on the user

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Last edited by LfmC on May-05-2009 at 08:24

Name one of these plug ins that supposedly causes a delay?

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Originally posted by cronodevir Name one of these plug ins that supposedly causes a delay?

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...0&forumid=48&s=

i wouldn't ever suggest this DAW but i think enough producers in dance have made enough charting tracks with this DAW to support its use no matter the features it may or may not have.