Originally posted by nefardec
i hate when people say that
occam's razor tends to be completely relative to the current zeitgeist, or used in favor of anyone's argument.
let me use it :
i tend to think that occam's razor would rather disprove the existence of a bajillion types of mysterious and spurious subatomic particles and support the notion that we create their semblance simply by looking for them.
You may be right... and you may be proved right in due course. Sometimes I think quantum mechanics will turn out to be the voodoo of the 20th century. People will look back and say "what the fuck were they smoking".. don't get me started on string theory. Or they might turn out to be right .
I just think when I hear something like this:
quote:
and then went onto say "do you have anxiety?" to which Zoe replied, no but my boyfriend does, she then says "ahh he has a disorder?" so Zoe replies, yeah he has panic disorder, and she says "well he needs to come see me, he needs healing"
I tend to think either she iseither:
- tapping into the astral realm to divine this information, or
- she's just poking and prodding with vague questions and homing in on details as she gets more information from the person she's reading. She can read people's reactions/body language and verbal cues very well.. but I wouldn't say there's anything "supernatural" or spiritual about what's happening.
Seems comon sense to take the latter explanation because it doesn't require as many outlandish assumptions.
Accepting the former explanation requires particular credulousness. If I told you I'm typing this psychically without actually touching the keyboard would you assume a whole new unexplored branch of science into existence to make my telekinesis possible or just assume I'm lying (the most elegant possible solution)?
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May-07-2009 01:00
pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
i don't understand this vintage idea that people have that the material world and the world of the spirit and mind are somehow separate
and i don't understand this archaic idea that there is a world of the spirit.
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May-07-2009 01:03
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Re: clairvoyancey, spiritual healing and****..
quote:
Originally posted by [N]ûk|êû[Z]
does anyone actually believe in this?
Sadly, yes.
May-07-2009 01:03
nefardec
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
and i don't understand this archaic idea that there is a world of the spirit.
lol you're missing the entire point of what i was attempting to say.
there is no world of the spirit. spirit is matter, matter is spirit.
matter is like the particle state of a quantum, spirit like the wave.
spirit exists without time and space. in the act of observing/perceiving/becoming aware of this spirit/energy/information/idea, it assumes particle form.
they are two nonlocal aspects of the same essential truth.
May-07-2009 01:28
pkcRAISTLIN
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if spirit is matter, how does matter exist without time or space?
Originally posted by ********
She's trying to take your sole, if she's hot do it, it'll be fun...
OR
?
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"many species of bear give blowjobs." - Originally posted by Sunsnail.. NOW CONFIRMED BY PHOTO EVIDENCE!
"astroboy is brave and gentle and wise." - Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
"ew! i wouldn't go anywhere near a homeless dudes butthole... not even if i was sodomizing him with a poison ivy cactus dildo" - Originally posted by lücid
"also can someone post the link to my mom's forum, thank you!" - Originally posted by miamitrance04
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May-07-2009 01:42
Silky Johnson
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quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
matter is like the particle state of a quantum, spirit like the wave.
This is the essence of the wave...
May-07-2009 03:29
nefardec
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
if spirit is matter, how does matter exist without time or space?
it doesn't
at least not like it appears to. try to find an electron in space.
May-07-2009 05:45
MrJiveBoJingles
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Plus time and space are observer-relative.
May-07-2009 05:54
pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
it doesn't
at least not like it appears to. try to find an electron in space.
Cant we know where it is, just not where its going? (or reverse).
I dunno, you're getting me all confused when all I wanted to do was make fun of people who believe in psi powers.
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May-07-2009 05:54
nefardec
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
Cant we know where it is, just not where its going? (or reverse).
that's the point - basically the scientific consensus is that the particle appears only when you decide to look for it.
then it looks like matter really isn't all it's cracked up to be
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