Wow, sounding like this he took something much more severe than first indicated...

From teh sporting news...

http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/the_sporting_blog/entry/view/23922/either_manny_is_a_woman,_or_he_was_on_some_sort_of_steroids_cycle

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Either Manny Is a Woman, Or He Was on Some Sort of Steroids Cycle --- ESPN and Yahoo! report that the banned substance in question is human chorionic gonadotropin, or HCG, which is a female fertility drug. I realize that means nothing to you, so here, let Wikipedia explain exactly why a male would be injecting himself with this: In males, hCG mimics LH and helps restore and maintain testosterone production in the testes. As such, hCG is commonly used during and after steroid cycles to maintain and restore testicular size as well as endogenous testosterone production. However, if hCG is used for too long and in too high a dose, the resulting rise in natural testosterone will eventually inhibit its own production via negative feedback on the hypothalamus and pituitary. In other words, you take it after you’re finished with whatever steroids you’re taking so that you don’t turn into a woman. Basically. So while he didn’t specifically test positive for what we’d traditionally consider steroids, he tested positive for a drug that a male would only take after having done steroids. Smoking gun, and all that.

ESPN.com says it can be used instead of steroids altogether, but then he's still running the risk of not being able to produce testosterone....and that HCG is "similar to Clomid, the drug Bonds, Giambi and others used as clients of BALCO."

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The DODGERS will be ok....although, did you see the lineup for today? The 4 and 5 hitters have a combined 0 homeruns this year, LOL!


It was like a kick in the balls this morning when I heard about this. Being a lifelong Dodger fan, it hurt bad, especially after last night victory....Im still numb.

If the Dodgers play .500 ball, We will be 46 and 33 on July 3rd when we are in San Diego and Manny comes back. Manny will be fresh and out to prove some shit. Reminds anybody of last year?

Dodgers are still going all the way.

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Torra coach chef,Jason Giambi,Arod and Manny and all of them use roids !

YESSSSS! I hope in the next 50 days the dodgers fall in the standings!! GO GIANTS!!!!

Giants need to make a trade!!!!

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Originally posted by T Dizzle YESSSSS! I hope in the next 50 days the dodgers fall in the standings!! GO GIANTS!!!! Giants need to make a trade!!!!

LOL Giant fan.

You need more than a trade dude.

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Manny would deff. not hit a home run of Marshell ! He hit the
ball like it was a golf ball !

Kruk and Kuip said on teh Giants pre-game this morning that we shouldn't feel happy about what happened today, and this is bad for baseball. But after taking so much shit as a Giants fan for YEARS because of Barry Bonds, god today felt great.

Imagine if the Giants had end up signing Manny?

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Originally posted by fupaking Kruk and Kuip said on teh Giants pre-game this morning that we shouldn't feel happy about what happened today, and this is bad for baseball. But after taking so much shit as a Giants fan for YEARS because of Barry Bonds, god today felt great. Imagine if the Giants had end up signing Manny?

Are you serious? There is a big difference between the Bonds and the Manny situation.

Bonds was a complete asshole about the entire situation, laughing in our faces while denying it to this day.

Ramirez admitted he did the drug in question. He apologized. He knew what the consequences were and he's accepting them. He's not being an asshole. He has been nothing but spectacular for the Dodgers, has caused no negative controversy until now, and right now he's fessing up to what he did.

The Giants really have nothing, and have had absolutely nothing to cheer about for years now, so I guess naturally, they will jump on every opportunity to bask in the aftermath of this horrible news.

Sorry guys, Lincecum cant pitch everyday. Enjoy the series this weekend.....

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Originally posted by vet26 Are you serious? There is a big difference between the Bonds and the Manny situation. Bonds was a complete asshole about the entire situation, laughing in our faces while denying it to this day. Ramirez admitted he did the drug in question. He apologized. He knew what the consequences were and he's accepting them. He's not being an asshole. He has been nothing but spectacular for the Dodgers, has caused no negative controversy until now, and right now he's fessing up to what he did. The Giants really have nothing, and have had absolutely nothing to cheer about for years now, so I guess naturally, they will jump on every opportunity to bask in the aftermath of this horrible news. Sorry guys, Lincecum cant pitch everyday. Enjoy the series this weekend.....

I have a couple things to say about that:

1) Manny (and his agent) does have the benefit of seeing what happens in the media when you a) deny b) keep your mouth shut c) fess up to only half the truth, but omit other parts of the truth.
(See Barry, McGuire, A-Rod, etc, and you'll see examples of that.)

2) It was something prescribed by a doctor???? That is an EXCUSE - how many men do you know that get prescribed female fertility drugs
Is having having some problems with his ovaries?
Manny may be accepting the judgement, but he is not admitting he did steroids. Manny may have been positive in attitude, but now everything including his world series vicotry is in question...in other words, he's still a good guy in the eyes of his fans cause he only got caught now? PALEAAAAAAAASE.

This probably would be 100x worse if the Giants had signed him. I admit, I wanted them to sign Manny, and would still rather have him on our side, but that wasn't going to happen.

not here to start a war. Teams are just teams, players are just players. I'm not a part of any team, or friends with any of the players, so in the end, who cares (unless you are a Raiders fan then you actually think like you are part of the team/gang/whatever lol)
...but in the end there are more guys cheating than we realize, and they are on your team, mine, and others. They're a product of the baseball system. Why today they still think they won't get caught, I have no clue....

alright...let's get back to trance!

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Originally posted by vet26 LOL Giant fan. You need more than a trade dude.

Dodger players need more Steroids "dude"!

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1. Komytea - Exit
2. Helvetic Nerds - Salto (Leventina Mix)
3. Passenger 10 - Avantgarde
4. Scope & Mark Lowry - Muasi
5. Timmy & Tommy - Escape to Fiji!