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Originally posted by ******** Profiting individuals through subsidy though is a form of embezelment, so I think one must be careful to support the activity but not the individual financially. While making money off private enterprise is one thing, being paid by the government large sums of cash for doing nothing, is questionable practice.

Sorry, but aren't you living off a government subsidy even today? Haven't you been living off a government subsidies without working for several years now? Based on this discussion you are clearly capable of thinking/working for yourself.

Last edited by Capitalizt on May-19-2009 at 02:51

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel In the form of grants, yes. I am referring to subsidizing costs, for example, the US corn industry.

I think for a supposed champion of free markets and free trade the US is horribly hypocritical, especially in its relations with australia and our agricultural exports. Having said that, if I can buy US corn cheaper than I can get it from australian farmers, then it doesn't bother me so much. For me, capitalism is all about the consumer.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN I think for a supposed champion of free markets and free trade the US is horribly hypocritical, especially in its relations with australia and our agricultural exports. Having said that, if I can buy US corn cheaper than I can get it from australian farmers, then it doesn't bother me so much. For me, capitalism is all about the consumer.

Most US politicians and heck, even citizens, will probably say we are a free market society but anyone who has studied our economic policies a little should be able to realize that this simply is not true. It's unfortunate, especially when you sometimes hear or see people put the blame of our current economic troubles on capitalism and free markets!

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT Most US politicians and heck, even citizens, will probably say we are a free market society but anyone who has studied our economic policies a little should be able to realize that this simply is not true. It's unfortunate, especially when you sometimes hear or see people put the blame of our current economic troubles on capitalism and free markets!

Yeah, I think its BS when we engage with the states in "free trade agreements" and the US ignores our requests to reduce subsidies so aussie farmers can break into the US market. Fvckers.

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Originally posted by ******** Is something I said NOT true?

nobody reads your long-winded garbage posts man.

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Originally posted by ******** Hopefully you get my drift.

nobody ever gets your drift.

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lol, PKC got it..

How about prescription medicines? There's a subsidy which does wonders for countless people in the world.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yeah, I think its BS when we engage with the states in "free trade agreements" and the US ignores our requests to reduce subsidies so aussie farmers can break into the US market. Fvckers.

This was one of the other aspects of these subsidies that I had in mind. NAFTA is total fail imho.

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Originally posted by Fledz How about prescription medicines? There's a subsidy which does wonders for countless people in the world.

The subsidy isn't paid to the drug manufacturers. It is paid to the drug stores. At least in the US it is. I would assume it is the same elsewhere. I am not totally supportive of this, but I understand that at some levels it is necessary to allow access that would otherwise be denied.

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