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Krypton
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quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
the galaxies are at rest though. im arguing that "galaxies moving away from us faster than SOL" is not the same as "objects can move faster than the SOL"


The galaxies are moving through space.

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quote:
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The galaxies are moving through space.


Yes, but not faster than light. They are always moving at sub light speeds. Space itself is what is expanding, like the balloon in my example.

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Krypton
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Yes but moving faster than light from us, even though not faster at 0 distance from said galaxy.

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They aren't moving faster than light from us. It's our frame of reference that's changing because space is constantly expanding. The frame of reference of an Indycar is the pavement. It is static and easy to measure. Space isn't and that's the tricky thing here. Galaxies need not be moving through space at all. They could be completely stationary yet still growing apart from us by trillions of miles per second. Their distance may increase, yes..but space itself is what is expanding so it is inaccurate to say they are "moving" at that speed. Sunsnail is right.

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quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
The galaxies are moving through space.


NO, they're not actually

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I read this thread as "cosmetologist." As in, a beautician.


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Well there is this idea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_speed_of_light
I read the book of one of the people who furthest and most recently progressed the idea about 2 years back. I don't remember much about it since I was told to disregard it as garbage and nonsense by my superiors. Now, on second thought, I think I'd like to go back and research it some more.
Anyways, the theory goes that the speed of light is variable, and not constant as is currently believed. It is an attempt to resolve some of the conflicts of physics in the early universe which dissolve as a result of an incredible density which eventually "smooths" itself into accepting our theories. A resolution would be to have the speed of light(c) as variable. For the past zillion years, the speed of light has been steady at what we see as C, but in the early years of the universe, the velocity of C was even greater.

So just imagining the outer reaches of the universe where some of the galaxies/clutter reside, maybe they are in a time-space where they are in this xMultiplier variant of C.

I read this on a Kellogs box. Disregard anything I said above.


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i have copyright on the term "speed of light". please stop using it, or i will contact the authorities.


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dunno if this was already disproved in this thread, but is it possible that there exist things that move faster than light, but we are just unable to detect them with current technology?


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dunno if this was already disproved in this thread, but is it possible that there exist things that move faster than light, but we are just unable to detect them with current technology?


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