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Originally posted by Domesticated Now, my own bit: I think it's correct to say that some movies featuring electronic music seem dated, but it’s not specifically because they contain electronic music, it’s because the music itself has dated.

Well, yeah, I think the point is that electronic music doesn't automatically "date" a film, but it's more likely to do so than a conventional orchestral score is, because electronic music relies so much for its sound on the state of technology at the time. Like you said, it's always developing.

I quite like synth classical (in particular in clockwork orange, cosmos and blade runner). Clockwork orange looks quite dated just from the camera quality, haircuts and everything else anyway. Just depends on how much you like certain aspects of the 70s really. I think synths will probably sound a lot less dated from the 90s onwards (just because of the fact that the unstable pitch is nearly gone in the early 90s onwards and then comepletely gone with digital synths, so a pad sound will likely sound more similar).

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Originally posted by Domesticated Electronic music is still very much in a stage of development, whereas rock, classical and all other kinds of music are into the period where the music doesn’t change much from decade to decade.

If we're talking metal or indie rock or anything, they did not exist in the 80s, and I'd place a bet they'd sound very different in 10 years. I mean atreyu (a fairly emo influenced metalcore band) featured in underworld evolution. Doesn't sound too dated atm, but probably will in 10 years.

Then again I'm getting the feeling this is more about the abstract sortof movies that people might be still likely to watch in 20 years.

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Blade Runner does sound a bit plasticky but it suits the movie well.

I think the worst part of the score is the tenor sax love theme.

i see what the OP means, but if it's done well it works for the film. it worked for... ehhhhh... the matrix, i guess.

i think a good example of a film feeling dated from too much electronic music is "hackers." still have a soft spot for the movie (and the soundtrack) though

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Originally posted by Domesticated Lastly, people have mentioned ‘Blade Runner’. What about ‘The Godfather’? Giorgio Moroder did a stellar job with that and I think it still sounds fresh.

That was Nino Rota. Oh, maybe you're talking about Scarface?

I don't understand why people keep citing The Matrix as an example. First of all the actual score is orchestral. Then the movie features a wide mix of tracks by various artists ranging from rock and metal with industrial leanings to electronic music in the form of big beat and trip hop, which is quite organic-sounding electronic music.

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Originally posted by Darkarbiter If we're talking metal or indie rock or anything, they did not exist in the 80s

That is preposterous.

people's opinions on movie soundtracks are influenced by society trends and standards. most movies have organic sounds like orchestras for a spaceship scene or acoustic guitar for a sunset scene. its been that way for a long time, but even then you can tell a time period of a movie. for example an old black and white movie from the 50's with violins, piano, horns sounds way different than a movie from the 80's using the same exact instruments.

im glad some movie makers have the balls to make a soundtrack a little different than movies in the past, because then that changes the standards a little bit. at what point did the music in movies of the 50's change to what it sounds like in the 70's, 80's, etc? when some brave soul decided to make music that sounds a little bit different (even though the same instruments were used).

the thing with movie music, is that most of it is ominous tones to create moods. it cant be too front and center and steal the show with catchy melodies and vocals when there is important dialogue going on, but then for example in the action car chase scene you can have a normal song with all that stuff. so how does electronic music fit into that? probably a movie that needs the feeling or mood most people associate when they hear electronic sounding music. for example in old sci fi or horror movies the theremin was used (that's considered electronic, right? or are we focusing on synthesizers?).

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dubstep in movies now? most people are excited by it, but i dont think its that far fetched because a lot of dubstep already sounds like movies. a lot of dubstep samples movies and uses typical organic movie soundtrack sounds too. but they also talk about how its not just daft punk being used for tron.

tron using electronic sounding music is not really that forward thinking or progressive minded. any sci fi movie using artificial or syntesized sounds i dont think is a real stretch or taking many chances. now a movie such as benjamin button with electronic syntesizer music, that i'd like to see. heh,

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Originally posted by stevësto dubstep in movies now?

Oh yeah, some of it was used in my favourite Children of Men. Tunes like Anti War Dub sounded good as a soundtrack to not-so-distant, post apocalyptic future.

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Originally posted by SMC That is preposterous.

LOL at metal "not existing" in the '80s.

1980s was the decade of metal! What is up with people not knowing any music history?!

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles LOL at metal "not existing" in the '80s. 1980s was the decade of metal! What is up with people not knowing any music history?!

Yeah, it was huge. I personally don't think the 80s were the best years in metal, but it was an essential and crucial period in the evolution of the genre after its foundations were laid in the 70s.

Indie rock as well was practically born in the 80s when the post-punk movement started to branch out in different directions.

I don't think the '80s were the best either, for the most part, but there's no denying that they represented a peak in metal's popularity. Certainly here in the US anyway.