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MrJiveBoJingles
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: U.S.

If you endorse the general principle that government has the right to sterilize people, then when somebody else comes into power you or people you like might come up for sterilization. When you make a law, you set a precedent for people to make that general kind of law.

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The17sss
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Registered: May 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Re: Government mandated sterilization

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
Do you believe in the forced sterilization of people that are totally unfit to birth and care for children?


The poster boy for that idea is right here:



Desmond Hatchett. 29 years old. 21 kids with at least 13 women. Had 4 kids in a single year TWICE. Works a minimum wage job. Pays about $1.98 per month in child support to each woman after the scraps are sorted out.

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EddieZilker
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I believe that anyone who demonstrates the capacity or will to hold unto one or more people a campaign which would deprive them of their reproductive rights ought to be sterilized immediately!


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Domesticated
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Re: Government mandated sterilization

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
Do you believe in the forced sterilization of people that are totally unfit to birth and care for children?

I do. Homeless, drug addicts, the mentally retarded, and the likes should be imho.

discuss.


Yes, you're a perfect example.

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Darkarbiter
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Registered: Mar 2007
Location: Melbourne

I agree that is a pretty terrible thing... however there are some pretty extreme cases.

How about a 4 kid limit imposed upon certain people?


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idoru
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Cascadia

While I do agree that many people are unfit to be parents, it just feels wrong to me to impose outright bans on certain people reproducing.

Who are we to judge that somebody will be unfit to raise a child, and who are we to say that they will? I can sit here and say, "Hey, Ben seems like he'd make a great dad," when in fact he may ultimately, for one reason or another, turn out to utterly ruin the child's life. You'd still be allowing for a huge number of potential fuck-ups.

Who are we to say, as previously said in this thread, that all homeless and drug addicts should be sterilized? What, people can't get back on their feet? Once homeless, always homeless? Once a drug addict, always a drug addict? Fuck, Ben, you can't be serious, can you?

Maybe, maybe I can see a case-by-case basis being implemented, but no. Bullshit. I'm sorry, but as much as I like to sit back and complain about how many horrible parents there are, there's absolutely no way to judge who will or won't be a good parent. You could be in the shittiest situation yet still raise a successful child.

I mean, fuck, look at Chris Gardner (the guy Will Smith played in The Pursuit of Happyness). He had custody of his child while he was homeless, living out of church shelters and, of all things, subway bathrooms. Where is he now? CEO with a net worth of $165 million and a son who, when asked about homelessness during his childhood, responds, "I couldn't tell you that we were homeless, I just knew that we were always having to go. So, if anything, I remember us just moving, always moving." Would you have agreed to allow him to be fertile if you knew him when he was homeless and completely down on his luck?

I'm sorry, but to allow others to pass such a broad, sweeping judgment upon someone else is completely asinine.

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elFreak
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Registered: Feb 2008
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if i reproduce will you babysit jake?

i promise they won't eat furniture so long as it not lower than knee level.


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Armitage
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Location: Vancouver

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
you do realize that is just one step away from eugenics


actually i think it's zero steps away from eugenics.

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idoru
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Registered: May 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
if i reproduce will you babysit jake?

i promise they won't eat furniture so long as it not lower than knee level.


Anything for you, Jay.

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we_R_DNA
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Right, Here
Re: Government mandated sterilization

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
Do you believe in the forced sterilization of people that are totally unfit to birth and care for children?

I do. Homeless, drug addicts, the mentally retarded, and the likes should be imho.

discuss.


I believe in the freedom of the people for the people and for you to come up here preaching this eugenics pisses me off. . .

So while we are making rules of law as to what may fancy our idealistic dreams I'll begin:

The rule goes as is if there is anyone who seeks to have another person sterilized that person who saught the sterilization will be sterilized.

The sword we wield is double edged and I just used it against you.

Discuss!

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elFreak
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Registered: Feb 2008
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http://www.myspace.com/thermionicemissions

start by you, you have less friends than agq.


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we_R_DNA
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Registered: Jan 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
http://www.myspace.com/thermionicemissions

start by you, you have less friends than agq.


Oh How amazing you make judgments off of myspace websites LOL

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