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Originally posted by jennypie He can still sound like an idiot. And he sounds like an idiot to me.

and you look like a huge cunnt but you dont see us making a scene about it.

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The 3rd world jennypie must think that anyone who carries more than $20 is an idiot LOL

Both sides of the Drug War have eroded civil rights in most of the Western Hemisphere for some time now.

'Bout time we caught up.

is ti wrong when they do this at airports?

because they have been doing it for years.

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Originally posted by elFreak is ti wrong when they do this at airports? because they have been doing it for years.

from my understanding, customs and border officials have a lot more authority than the police do.

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legalize it, tax it, destigmatize it.

And i dont even consume drugs other than alcohol.

We are losing rights in all forms not just because of drugs. Try safety, the environment or any other cause de jour. There is always an excuse.

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Originally posted by chinamon from my understanding, customs and border officials have a lot more authority than the police do.

i am for the border seizures, as i am for this too (and i smoke).

prevention > fixing an already existing problem.

i am sure the person who's property is seized has a legal recourse to get it back proven that he/she can provide a legitimate explanation.

i might be a hassle, but in reality this might stop crimes...same with border officers, who would have confiscated that cash too.

i much as i love weed, its proceeds are sometimes used to fund other illegal activities that may not be so harmless.

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Originally posted by elFreak is ti wrong when they do this at airports? because they have been doing it for years.

Yes and no IMO.

Regardless of the law (as i dont know how it applies to border agents off hand) i feel that border agents should have to right to seize what they consider to be dangerous goods or illegally obtained goods. HOWEVER.... There should be a court process whereby you can get those items back. The onus should be on the state to prove you are guilty, not the person to prove they are innocent.

As for meat and cheese and drugs etc where the rules are clearly stated, they have every right to seize these items and charge you.

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Originally posted by elFreak i am for the border seizures, as i am for this too (and i smoke). prevention > fixing an already existing problem. i am sure the person who's property is seized has a legal recourse to get it back proven that he can provide a legitimate explanation. i might be a hassle, but in reality this might stop crimes...same with border officers, who would have confiscated that cash too.

In this article it states that items seized by the police cannot be recovered. And IMO policing and border protecting are two COMPLETELY different realms.

Both should have proper jurisprudence and procedure and should protect the rights of the innocent.

smells like the patriot act to me.... cannuck-style

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Originally posted by elFreak prevention > fixing an already existing problem.

When it comes to policy this is a very dangerous position. It allows the state to assume that everyone will commit an offense before it happens thereby creating an environment where everyone is treated like a suspect.

Look at our alcohol laws for a good example of this. And this mode of thinking has encroached in almost every facet of life in the past 30 years.

I am from the school of thought that education, providing options, personal responsibility and rigid enforcement are the way to go. Of course proper jurisprudence and the right to be innocent until proven guilty is always a must in ALL situations. What we dont need are restrictive laws designed for every single "what if?" scenario and police powers that bypass the courts and any right to defend one's self.