this is a textbook move by any up & coming producer does to get some buzz about him/her. take something that is well recognized and try to hijack it, most punters won't know who the geezer who made the remix is but they know the original.

the most daft fucks are the ones who just take a very very very small sample from something and throw it onto a track that has nothing to do with the track where the sample originated and then for kicks point out what they sampled in the title of the track.... matthew dekay anyone?


anyhow, ye, this is just a fullon rephrase of system-j's post and i agree on all he said aswell. bland remix, adds nothing to the original, any of the ******s who are playing this should be playing dark train instead.

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Originally posted by stripped99 Dear oh dear no.

Then what is the point of even bringing it up? If you're not trying to impress people, then why even mention that some big-name jock thinks that it's a great piece of music?

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Originally posted by Kismet7 I have'nt heard the remix yet, but it would be neglectful of me not to point out that what you wrote is an example of a person not understanding the purpose of a remix, regardless of the quality of remix. If you knew the purpose, you would not be bothered by this remix in the way you have been bothered young Siddhartha. Hence, knowledge is power...thus I am have powers.

A.) By all means, feel free to speak for Nick as though you're best friends with him and are absolutely 200% certain of his decision to remix this.

B.) What is the point of this remix? Do you really feel that it is at all necessary? How can you even begin to attempt defending him when you haven't even heard it? Do you really think that all remixes are done for the exact same reason(s)?

This is a bastardization of epic proportions. If you're going to sit there and say that it is to try and make it sound fresh and fit in with "today's sound" then fuck you. If you can't make a classic track that truly stands the test of time seamlessly fit into a set full of new music then you, sir, fail as a DJ.

Hell, this is the modus operandi of Mark Knight and Funkagenda.

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Originally posted by idoru Then what is the point of even bringing it up? If you're not trying to impress people, then why even mention that some big-name jock thinks that it's a great piece of music? A.) By all means, feel free to speak for Nick as though you're best friends with him and are absolutely 200% certain of his decision to remix this. B.) What is the point of this remix? Do you really feel that it is at all necessary? How can you even begin to attempt defending him when you haven't even heard it? Do you really think that all remixes are done for the exact same reason(s)? This is a bastardization of epic proportions. If you're going to sit there and say that it is to try and make it sound fresh and fit in with "today's sound" then fuck you. If you can't make a classic track that truly stands the test of time seamlessly fit into a set full of new music then you, sir, fail as a DJ.

A) what you on about?

B) A Remix is necessary as soon as a Label that owns the parts to the track decide they want someone to remix the track to reach different listeners, different dancefloors, different genres, to bring more awarness to the original artist's music. One of the reasons someone who has never heard of MGMT might look into them, is because they heard a Justice remix of the track and decided they would like to see what the original artist has to offer. Another reason remixes are done is when a lot of time has passed since the original release of the track, and the label wants to rekindle interest for the original release and the artist, so they have artists of different genres do a remix. So the complaint is, why was a classic remixed, well it helps the classic gain more attention from the followers of that remixer or that demographic of DJs and listeners that the remixer might penetrate. Just because its a classic does not mean it should not be remixed lol. That said, im against butchering classics and I havent heard this remix, and dont think I want to, but if it brings more awareness to the original, I have no issue with a remix of a classic. And because of this thread, I think im gonna remix a classic, when I find one that inspires me to remix it.

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Originally posted by Kismet7 A) what you on about?

You were going on and on as though you knew the purpose of this remix. You don't. You're not the guy who remixed it, you don't know him. Don't try and speak as though you know exactly why this piece of music exists.

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B) A Remix is necessary as soon as a Label that owns the parts to the track decide they want someone to remix the track to reach different listeners, different dancefloors, different genres, to bring more awarness to the original artist's music. One of the reasons someone who has never heard of MGMT might look into them, is because they heard a Justice remix of the track and decided they would like to see what the original artist has to offer. Another reason remixes are done is when a lot of time has passed since the original release of the track, and the label wants to rekindle interest for the original release and the artist, so they have artists of different genres do a remix. So the complaint is, why was a classic remixed, well it helps the classic gain more attention from the followers of that remixer or that demographic of DJs and listeners that the remixer might penetrate. Just because its a classic does not mean it should not be remixed lol. That said, im against butchering classics and I havent heard this remix, and dont think I want to, but if it brings more awareness to the original, I have no issue with a remix of a classic. And because of this thread, I think im gonna remix a classic, when I find one that inspires me to remix it.

Your argument about record labels is null and void because this is being given away as a free track and is not being distributed by any record label. Also, what dancefloor or new crowd is he trying to reach with this? Look at the list of the DJs who are playing it; most of them have played the "original" countless times over to the same audience(s) for years.

If anyone wanted to raise awareness of the original, they'd drop the original. Any crowd that doesn't melt in its heat is a crowd I don't want to be in.

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Originally posted by idoru Then what is the point of even bringing it up? If you're not trying to impress people, then why even mention that some big-name jock thinks that it's a great piece of music?

Have you seen the endless lists that some labels and producers attach to their releases these days? It's pathetic that they take the "look who's playing it" approach to sell their music instead of letting it speak for itself.

Sometimes a small list of DJs is useful to let you know what to expect from a release package, but what exactly is the point of listing one-liners from 30 DJs?

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Originally posted by woscar Is this supposed to impress us?

lol I'd say they might be trying... trying.

Not going to bother listening, only thing il say, apart from agreeing with System-J's post, is that Nick Warren isnt on that list for a good reason. He still plays the original Did so a couple months ago here in Australia.

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Originally posted by montana any of the ******s who are playing this should be playing dark train instead.

+1

I seriously do not understand why so many DJs feel they can't play classics and shit like that these days. It's absolutely pathetic, stop trying to be trendy.

edit: I shouldn't say classics as that doesn't really apply, I guess I mean classic stuff like Dark Train. Guess it might be a matter of taste. I actually don't know what I'm trying to say.

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Originally posted by idoru You were going on and on as though you knew the purpose of this remix. You don't. You're not the guy who remixed it, you don't know him. Don't try and speak as though you know exactly why this piece of music exists. Your argument about record labels is null and void because this is being given away as a free track and is not being distributed by any record label. Also, what dancefloor or new crowd is he trying to reach with this? Look at the list of the DJs who are playing it; most of them have played the "original" countless times over to the same audience(s) for years.

So this wasnt a commisioned remix? Either way it brings more attention to the original mix, regardless of the subjective quality. And that is good for the original artist. If the same people who played the original are playing the remix, same thing applies, its good for the original artist. So you guys are mad because your pride was taken away by someone remixing a track you hold dear. You guys dont own the music, other people do, and the people who do own the music likely dont see a problem with someone finding parts and remixing the track. It stands that some of you still dont know the basics of why a remix is done, at a business level and a pratical level. I'm guessing from your own greedy natures you think that every artist wants to capitilize on a classic, without thinking maybe the classic inspires them heavily in a way to want to remix it, which would be likely the case if I were to remix a "classic." So fuck you in advance when I do remix a classic that inspires me, and people like you complain.

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I dont see the deal with all the classic remixes complains, if you dont like it dont listen to it, simple as that.

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Originally posted by enydo edit: I shouldn't say classics as that doesn't really apply, I guess I mean classic stuff like Dark Train. Guess it might be a matter of taste. I actually don't know what I'm trying to say.

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