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Q5echo
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

quote:
Originally posted by ziptnf
You think the democrats are afraid of Sarah Palin?


they were. evidently, from all the vitriol of the last 10 months. and you, ziptnf, will never, EVER, be able to come up with another suitable explanation as to why.

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pkcRAISTLIN
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Registered: Jul 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
most of the crap seen dumped on this woman's lap was not in the interests of legitimate political discourse.


were palin capable of engaging in legitimate political discourse you might have a point.

she's a fucking bitch with a poor IQ and has no place leading any state, alaska or otherwise. its great that the media has cottoned onto that and played their part in her demise. i hope that vanity fair article got wide coverage.

the only time you've ever disappointed me Q5 is voting for a ticket with her on it


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Lebezniatnikov
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I for one, am terrified of Sarah Palin - and Q, you should have been too.


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ziptnf
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Registered: Jun 2008
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quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
they were. evidently, from all the vitriol of the last 10 months. and you, ziptnf, will never, EVER, be able to come up with another suitable explanation as to why.

There's no way any of the democrats are afraid of Palin because she brings all this drama on herself. Just because a lot of people hate her for considering running our country doesn't mean that this wasn't her fault. How many SERIOUS candidates can sit in front of Katie Couric and make her uncomfortable and embarrassed as a journalist? She is not only one of the worst public speakers I've ever seen, simply regurgitating talking points and never answering questions on-point, but she seems to pride herself on it! Who in their right mind would try to make their slogan "Drill Baby Drill"?? Sure Obama isn't perfect, but at least he was able to be clear to the American public about his positions. More than half the country was unsure of Sarah Palin, and the election results proved it.

Now you tell ME, Q, why do you think she would be appropriate to run this country?


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josh4
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: New York City

quote:
But at another point she invoked a military quotation, misattributing it to Gen. Douglas MacArthur, in what seemed to be an effort to wave aside any suggestion that she was abandoning the fight. “He said, ‘We’re not retreating; we are advancing in another direction,’ ” she said. (The remark was actually said by Maj. Gen. Oliver Prince Smith.)
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/04/u...ner=rss&emc=rss


-sigh- I'm gonna miss her.

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Q5echo
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Registered: Feb 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by josh4
But at another point she invoked a military quotation, misattributing it to Gen. Douglas MacArthur, in what seemed to be an effort to wave aside any suggestion that she was abandoning the fight. “He said, ‘We’re not retreating; we are advancing in another direction,’ ” she said. (The remark was actually said by Maj. Gen. Oliver Prince Smith.)
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/04/u...ner=rss&emc=rss


that is a MacArthur quote. he said that when left Corrigidor

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Clovis
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quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
and you, ziptnf, will never, EVER, be able to come up with another suitable explanation as to why.


I have one: It's too fucking easy.


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Magnetonium
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Port Burwell, Ontario, Canada



End of story. End of political career.

Palin worn down by relentless media
Resignation called perplexing, a death knell

quote:

July 04, 2009
Lee-Anne Goodman
The Canadian Press
WASHINGTON (Jul 4, 2009)

Sarah Palin's stunning announcement yesterday that she's stepping down as Alaska governor is sure to renew heated debate in the United States about the media's treatment of her political aspirations, her capabilities and the state of modern-day feminism.

Palin's announcement that she's leaving the job in three weeks initially stoked speculation that she wanted to focus her energies on a serious bid for the White House in 2012.

But by last night, on the eve of the Fourth of July, NBC was reporting Palin was out of politics for good, worn down by months of living under a relentless media spotlight despite having courted much of the attention herself.

The news came at the end of a week during which the Palin debate had already bubbled back up into the national consciousness with fresh ferocity.

That's largely because of a damning Vanity Fair profile that suggests Palin remains ill-prepared for the international spotlight, is consumed with her own personal fortunes and is unwilling to do the work that's required to become a serious presidential candidate.

One observer said yesterday that Palin's decision to step down as Alaska governor was perplexing and might sound the death knell for a political career -- that is if she still has secret aspirations for the presidency.

"She looks weak," said Toni-Michelle Travis, a political science professor at George Mason University. "You need to have an office to get an office, a bully pulpit, a position from which you can make your statements, state your opinions, criticize.

"This is a bold calculation that carries a serious risk."

In Wasilla, Palin said she was tired of what she described as "superficial, wasteful, political bloodsport."

That sentiment is timely given the Vanity Fair piece, which not only portrays Palin and her family in a negative light, but has also sparked a full-blown Republican cockfight.

Palin's biggest defender, right-wing columnist Bill Kristol, has taken on Steve Schmidt, the man who served as John McCain's top campaign strategist during the Arizona senator's bid for the presidency last year.

Kristol, who helped sell McCain on Palin as a potential running mate last summer, is suggesting Schmidt is behind many of the negative tidbits now coming to light about the Alaska governor.

On Fox News this week, he accused Schmidt of spreading rumours that Palin was suffering from postpartum depression during her cringe-worthy tour of duty as McCain's running mate last fall. She'd given birth to her fifth child, Trig, several months earlier.

"This was not a well-run campaign," said Kristol. "Schmidt did not behave very honourably."

An angry Schmidt responded with sarcasm. "I'm sure John McCain would be president today if only Bill Kristol had been in charge of the campaign," he wrote in an e-mail to news organizations.

"After all, his management of (former vice-president) Dan Quayle's public image as his chief of staff is still something that takes your breath away ... his attack on me is categorically false."

Amid this political bloodbath, Palin's sudden announcement also lands with a book on the horizon that's expected to be as negative as the Vanity Fair piece. It will chronicle the tensions that existed between her and most of McCain's aides, some of whom resorted to leaking items to the media last fall calling her a diva, a hillbilly and a whack job.


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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:

and the state of modern-day feminism.


given palin's opinions on abortion i would say the state of modern-day feminism is doing just fine.


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Fir3start3r
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you have to admit....she's the hottest politician you've had in a long time...


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josh4
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: New York City

quote:

Sarah Palin not under federal investigation, FBI says
By SEAN COCKERHAM
Anchorage Daily News

ANCHORAGE, Alaska | An FBI spokesman took the unusual step Sunday of declaring that Gov. Sarah Palin is not under investigation, an announcement prompted by rumors to the contrary on many Web sites.

“We are not investigating her,” said FBI spokesman Eric Gonzalez. “Normally we don’t confirm or deny those kinds of allegations out there but by not doing so it just casts her in a very bad light. There is just no truth to those rumors out there in the blogosphere.”

His statement follows a Saturday letter from Gov. Sarah Palin’s personal attorney denouncing rumors Palin resigned because she is under criminal investigation, and threatening legal action for publishing “defamatory” material about the governor.

“I can say definitively I am aware of no criminal investigation whatsoever involving Sarah Palin. Zero,” Palin’s attorney, Thomas Van Flein, said in a phone interview as he attended the Fourth of July festivities on the Delaney Park Strip in Anchorage.

Earlier in the day, Palin’s personal spokeswoman, Meg Stapleton, sent out a statement from Van Flein attacking “false and defamatory allegations that the ’real’ reasons for Governor Palin’s resignation stem from an alleged criminal investigation pertaining to the construction of the Wasilla Sports Complex.”

Rumors Palin steered contracts for the 2003 construction of the Wasilla Sports Complex before leaving office as Wasilla mayor the previous fall, in return for work building her home about the same time, have been around at least since the vice presidential campaign last fall.

They have resurfaced on many Web sites following her abrupt announcement she will resign from office in three weeks. Palin’s house, almost 3,500 square feet with four bedrooms and four baths, is on a two-acre site along scenic Lake Lucille in Wasilla and is assessed at $532,500.

Van Flein wrote in his Saturday letter the Palin family built the Lake Lucille house using Palin’s husband, Todd, as general contractor. It said Todd “is no stranger to construction.

“The Palins used a combination of personal savings, equity from the sale of their private home, and conventional bank financing to build the house, like millions of American families” Van Flein wrote

Van Flein’s letter threatening legal action specifically pointed the finger at Alaska blogger Shannyn Moore as “most notably“ claiming as “fact” that Palin resigned under federal investigation.

Van Flein, asked why he singled out Moore, said it’s because she went on national television and talked about it. Moore was on with MSNBC’s David Shuster on Friday, the day Palin said she will resign.

“There is a scandal rumor here that there is a criminal investigation into some activities and that’s been rumored for about, I don’t know, probably six weeks or two months,” Moore told him.

She said she’s never seen Palin appear as nervous as she did at the press conference announcing her resignation and “I think she was actually doing damage control for news that’s coming up later.”

Moore plans a press conference in Anchorage today to respond to what she called a “series of wild accusations” by Van Flein.

Van Flein wrote “we will be exploring legal options this week to address such defamation.” In an interview, Van Flein said it’s not clear what those options might be. His letter cites the freedom of speech clause in the Alaska Constitution, and its statement that “every person may freely speak, write, and publish on all subjects, being responsible for the abuse of that right.”

Anchorage attorney Peter Maassen, who last fall successfully defended legislators sued in an effort to stop the “Troopergate“ investigation of the governor, said Van Flein would have an extremely hard time winning any legal action.

“If (Palin) is actually a public figure, which clearly she is, there has to be actual malice involved, in my understanding of defamation law. That would be very hard to prove. ... It’s a very, very high bar if it is a public figure,” he said.

Moore said she always characterized it as rumors and never claimed it was fact. She said she has no idea if Palin is under investigation for the construction of her house or anything else, but the governor’s resignation from office was so out of character it’s raising questions about what’s going on.

“I haven’t defamed the governor, I reported on speculation and rumor in Alaska. ... It’s not my rumor; it’s been out there for 10 months and the First Amendment protects me,” Moore said. “Even if I didn’t say it’s ’rumors and speculation,’ I’m still protected — I would just lose credibility, which I’m not willing to do.”

Van Flein wrote his letter “is to provide notice to Ms. Moore, and those who re-publish this defamation, such as Huffington Post, MSNBC, the New York Times and the Washington Post, that the Palins will not allow them to propagate defamatory material without answering to this in a court of law.”

The New York Times and Washington Post haven’t written anything about this, but Van Flein said he believed they were asking questions. “What I’ve been informed is that they’ve been interviewing people in Wasilla about this, and have tried to interview the governor’s parents about it,” Van Flein said.

His letter said the Wasilla sports complex project was publicly bid and that having Spenard Builders Supply involved in the complex work as well as being a source of materials for the Palin home proves nothing.

“Prior to the construction of Lowe’s and Home Depot within the last few years in Wasilla, Spenard Builders Supply was the primary building supply company in Wasilla. It can hardly come as a surprise that it would sell materials to small homeowners or that it would also bid to supply commercial contracts,” the letter said.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/poli...ry/1307270.html


This just keeps heating up! True or not true, they are only adding fuel to the fire for a showdown! I'm making popcorn.

To think people like Q actually want this woman in elected office, let alone the White House!

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ziptnf
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Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Louisville, KY

quote:
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This just keeps heating up! True or not true, they are only adding fuel to the fire for a showdown! I'm making popcorn.

To think people like Q actually want this woman in elected office, let alone the White House!


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