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Originally posted by SMC Are you telling me you can't afford a pair of these: http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er20.aspx ?

I didn't know you could get them so cheap. The prices I've always seen are in line with what Chris mentioned.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I didn't know you could get them so cheap. The prices I've always seen are in line with what Chris mentioned.

Obviously they are 1-size-fits-all, which is never really worth spending money on (imo) and they dont have flat damping like I explained in the previous post.
But they DO preserve your ears

1-size-fits-all always have the issue of leaking sound, which makes them really useless for a night of proper clubbing since a few seconds of leaking can be enough for some permanent (and extended) damage

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I didn't know you could get them so cheap. The prices I've always seen are in line with what Chris mentioned.

I'm not saying they're the best as far as transparency goes because i don't know, i have not tried any of those expensive molded-looking ones. But when it comes to protection they definitely do the job, they sit firmly in the ear and the sound is a lot better/clearer than with cheap throwaway foam plugs.

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Originally posted by SMC they sit firmly in the ear and the sound is a lot better/clearer than with cheap throwaway foam plugs.

That they sound better than foam plugs obviously is true, but I can't imagine them sitting in your ear firmly enough (since they are not molded to your ear) to not leak while laughing, dancing, moving, chewing, drinking, or just banging your head lol
Ofcourse if they do the job for you thats perfect

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foam plugs are also made to prevent damage created by noise, like construction work
(oops accidentally quoted my own post instead of editing )

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Originally posted by Glaniskanis That they sound better than foam plugs obviously is true, but I can't imagine them sitting in your ear firmly enough (since they are not molded to your ear) to not leak while laughing, dancing, moving, chewing, drinking, or just banging your head lol Ofcourse if they do the job for you thats perfect

One presses them in until they create an air-tight seal and then they sit there. This leakage you're talking about occurs for me only when i do one of these mega yawns and open my mouth REEEEALLY wide and stretch the jaw and sorrounding areas of muscle/bone etc around the ear. I've noticed it once or twice i think, and even then it's not like the whole plug pops out of the ear, there is only a slight momentary increase in the level of sound that comes through into the ear. Drinking, dancing and headbanging works fine. Chewing i haven't tried but i imagine that should work as well, unless you order in a steak while enjoying your favorite band performing.

I have some etymotic ear plugs as well and fucking love them. I used to have ringing in my ears for days (until wednesday once) after I went out, but with them in I have no problems at all. I keep them on my keychain now so I'm sure to never forget them.

Next time, go in with ear plugs. The loud music really does take a toll on your inner ear.

When I first started going out long ago I used to have bad cases of ringing ears. I remember I'd leave a club and get into a taxi to go home and not be able to hear myself, at all, try to tell the cab driver my address...I've had a few times where it took 3-5 days for the ringing to completely go away.

The last time I really remember having an issue after leaving an event was all the way back in 2004. I've been to hundreds of events over the years and can't think of one time since then that I've really had an issue. Maybe the systems here are just so well-tuned these days and I know some clubs don't play music as loud as they used to (due to local residents complaining) which might help too...but I've been lucky I must say.

To be safe, I've tried everything from foam to the ER20's...and all just kills the quality oft he sound too much. Yes, including the ER20s. They are better than the others, but not good enough for me! But before my ears give out me, def gottta work on getting custom fit earplugs....just have more important things to worry about now when it comes to what I spend my money on.

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Originally posted by DJ HARN thanks for the comments so far folks. Yes i was standing at the front for about 90mins when mark eteson was on. Right next to the speakers, you could feel the bass going right through you, i was so drunk i didn't care or think! But next time i will deffo be more careful. Lesson learned, and i'll hopefully recover.

Harn, I dont want to scare you but about 6 years ago I was out in NY on a friday night. Stayed out till 4 or 5am came home and slept until Sunday and then Sunday Night went to Shampoo Nightclub in Philly. Small room there and the DJ's were notorious for being treble blasting retards. Literally the resident dj there was obviously deaf because he would eq the room so harshly week in and week out.

So I come home Monday morning and the ears are ringing. I also noticed that cars and heavy machinery passing me on the highway were loud and painful. Long story short, in 1 night of heavy exposure I went from having pretty good hearing to having a legit case of hyperacusis. I also had unrelenting ringing (tinnitus) for years aftewards. At this point the ringing may still be there but my brain just might not hear it.

Definition of Hyperacusis: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...s&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

I didnt go to any bars or clubs for about 6 months and if I did I wore ear plugs. Its gotten better in the last few years, as it seems the human body can heal almost anything. But my advice is, if you have tinnitus for more than a day or 2, stay out of the bars and clubs for awhile and put ear plugs in your wallet so you always have them if needed.

I decided to experiment with ear plugs last year when I DJ'd in Tokyo. After taking them out, the sound levels were terrifying, and I have worn them every time I have been clubbing, since. I never go clubbing without them, and never get tinitus after. It's scary how loud the music really is. If you're a regular clubber, you should definitely invest in some.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike Social outcasts are often of the opinion that they must have a drink before being able to loosen up with their inhibitions, thus being able to have a good time. There's a word that sums up this sort of behaviour, and that word is 'reject.'

my liver is a bit more fucked than my eyes at the moment, with all the drinking.

i might have to invest in some earplugs as i am slowly starting to lose my hearing. i dont have enough cash to replace both my liver and ear drums...