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verminator
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there is something more going on between umek/blackhole

umek has done a remix of montana's "theme of concept", so its probably a part of a deal between both parts..

like.. i remix your stuff, you remix my stuff
+ money of course heh

anyways.. a tiesto mix.. or just letting blackhole getting involved with umek is disgusting enough..

such a commercial label releasing remixes of a classic underground techno track.. bølh


its not right..
man i wish there were some rules that could have prevented this..

at least only a few of the real techno dj's do play gatex these days.. seems like tiesto is a bit late, as all the techno dj's had it in their playlist mostly in the 2nd and 3rd quarter of 2001, and some even in the 4th too.

maybe the techno dj's are also getting sick of tiesto playing one of the classics that has been blasting the dancefloors for over one year now? who knows..
at least i am....

its not really that he plays it that bother me, but the ppl that listens to tiesto play it and suddenly say: wow techno ro0xxx.. , and the next time you let them hear some real good underground shit from liebing.. its like.. wtf.. techno suxx.. only the techno tiesto plays is good shit.. techno is for lamers.. blah
sømthin like that..

annyoing

either you like it or not..

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maybe then the track tiesto spun live was his remix!

not much of a "remix" though if you ask me, i would call it a remake
but then again he could have easily mixed the beat into it live.

so let's just wait and see!


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i agree be openminded, let's wait and see, (actually listen )


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Elyksir
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Slovenia

Well techno isn't so UNDERGROUND as it used to be >>> Umek, Liebing, Vath, Cox.... are big stars nowadays as much as trance DJs.
It's all about $$$$$$$$$. UNDERGROUND is mainly the past fact and this talking about commercialism is a big bullshit IMO.

Umek is getting airplays, interviews in Playboy, his Torture Chamber was advertised all over Slovenia....etc
So PLEASE stop talking about 'commercial' Black Hole. Everything is commercial nowadays...


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I'm just a little gutted that it's gonna be remixed at all, and undoubtedly be made huge all across Europe. I Hold the track in reverence, that's all.


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quote:
Originally posted by Elixir
It's all about $$$$$$$$$. UNDERGROUND is mainly the past fact and this talking about commercialism is a big bullshit IMO.


As long as someone like Jeff Mills is performing for peanuts at a small, alternative club such as "Doornroosje" in my hometown Nijmegen, where no hotel or dinner is arranged for him (in fact he had to eat at the local snack bar!) I'd say the underground feel is still alive and commercialism hasn't yet taken over the entire scene...


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Elyksir
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Slovenia
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quote:
Originally posted by phl1979


As long as someone like Jeff Mills is performing for peanuts at a small, alternative club such as "Doornroosje" in my hometown Nijmegen, where no hotel or dinner is arranged for him (in fact he had to eat at the local snack bar!) I'd say the underground feel is still alive and commercialism hasn't yet taken over the entire scene...


Well not the entire scene actually like not over entire trance scene also...
Since you've mentioned Mills he spun here two times and he was really bad- spinning these old detroit records without any enthusiasm and just to collect money ( yes, he received about 20000 euro !!! for a 2 hrs gig >>> some big peanuts dont you think )

This topic has gone way out of its meaning so... back to topic...


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no gatex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no!!!!!!!!!
this track was made to get remixes by chris liebing hehe


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DISGRACE

i find the fact that someone as commercial of tiesto, wanting to remix this masterpiece of a tune disturbing. Why of why has umek sold the rights to this tune to Majic music, could it be money, or he just wishes the further is carear, by letting a big name like tiesto bring him out into the open. GATEX belong on a label like kanzleramt or International Gigilo, not some cheesy trance label.


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quote:
Originally posted by Tsunami One
DISGRACE

i find the fact that someone as commercial of tiesto, wanting to remix this masterpiece of a tune disturbing. Why of why has umek sold the rights to this tune to Majic music, could it be money, or he just wishes the further is carear, by letting a big name like tiesto bring him out into the open. GATEX belong on a label like kanzleramt or International Gigilo, not some cheesy trance label.
THE DOWNFALL OF TECHNO HAS BEGUN


Can I ask you what are you doing on a board like TRANCEADDICT if you call Magik Muzik cheesy and if you dont like trance???


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Originally posted by Elixir


Can I ask you what are you doing on a board like TRANCEADDICT if you call Magik Muzik cheesy and if you dont like trance???


you dont have to be a tranceaddict and like magik muzik to be on this forum LOL

that's the most ridicilous thing ive heard

its for all kinds of genres, and it doesnt matter what YOU think is commercial.. because.. its only an opinion.

i support tsunami one on this one, because all he says is true. its the fact

and its a !#"#"!"! shame that umek has done what his done...

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there will always be an underground scene but the guy has probably tired of it and wants to get more recognition and a bit of extra cash wouldn't be bad either would it!

hell i don't blame him, you would have to be stupid to let up on an oppertunity like that, you shouldn't bag him for doing so.


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