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kotov
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Registered: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto, Canada

pfff... I dont think it bothers me anymore...... ontario government enforced mafia... only difference that real mafia can do something in return.. those wankas just grab ya moneys...

Old Post Jul-16-2009 20:28  Canada
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devnull
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arggggg, makes me wish i had insurance in QC again.

Paying $130 a month, saturn 2001, 24yr old, 1 speeding ticket(15 over)...which i dont think registered with the insurer!


When I started driving, I was paying $400 a year in quebec!


We really need to move to the same system quebec has!


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Old Post Jul-16-2009 21:18  Canada
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Jayx1
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

so glad that other people voted in this government for me!

Old Post Jul-16-2009 21:39  Canada
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DigiNut
You kids get off my lawn!



Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
welcome to my life.....of the 100 files on my desk I don't have a single where I've spent less than $50,000.00 and most likely 80-85 of the files will reach the $150,000.00 mark before they are closed. Most of the injuries are only soft tissue neck and back type injuries.

Heck, I had one guy want me to pay $20,000.00 for a garage he had added onto his house because he was affraid he might fall on the snow.

I don't get it, can't you refuse to pay these people? Doubtless that a few months of physiotherapy is more than enough for 90% of the people who are actually injured, which is probably only 10% of the people who claim to be.

I've actually seen a scam first-hand from some Russian immigrant asshole (probably illegal, I never did find out) and his sleazebag lawyer operating on commissions... and they settled with him, because apparently $200,000 was far enough away from the $2 million he wanted to sue for even though he jumped right in front of the car and never actually hit anything except the road, and was nowhere near an actual light or intersection. The only thing this douche rocket deserved to get was a swift kick in the gonads.


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Old Post Jul-16-2009 22:36  Canada
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ChemEnhanced
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Milton, ON Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
so glad that other people voted in this government for me!


The present auto insurance was initially put in place by Harris.


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Old Post Jul-16-2009 22:42  Canada
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Mach X
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Registered: May 2007
Location: Hart Plaza, Detroit

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~*
Great to hear, especially since I'm already paying up the ass since I had an at fault fender bender in 2008!


Not surprising, you're the reason insurance rates go up anyways...

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ChemEnhanced
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Milton, ON Canada

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
I don't get it, can't you refuse to pay these people? Doubtless that a few months of physiotherapy is more than enough for 90% of the people who are actually injured, which is probably only 10% of the people who claim to be.

I've actually seen a scam first-hand from some Russian immigrant asshole (probably illegal, I never did find out) and his sleazebag lawyer operating on commissions... and they settled with him, because apparently $200,000 was far enough away from the $2 million he wanted to sue for even though he jumped right in front of the car and never actually hit anything except the road, and was nowhere near an actual light or intersection. The only thing this douche rocket deserved to get was a swift kick in the gonads.


You can refuse to pay for treatments however; its not as easy as just saying sorry we're not paying for more treatment. The biggest problem is not the people who are injured....they are just pawns in the game played by legal reps and treatment facilities. The treatment facilities submit treatment plans to the insurance company and the insurance company can either accept the treatment plans or refuse them. If they refuse the treatment plan then the injured party has to be examined by an independent doctor to see if the treatment plan that was submitted is reasonable. The treatment facilities can submit as many treatment plans as they want and there is nothing holding them accountable for the recommendations they make in the treatment plans. The insurance companies have to pay for the costs to have the doctors examine the injured parties. Then there are assessment facilities who send in requests for ortho assessments, psych assessment, neuro assessments, etc, etc, etc. when the injured parties don't even need these types of assessments. The scams start right from the tow truck drivers to the legal reps, to the treatment facilities, to the assessment facilities and to the injured people. In a lot of cases the injured parties don't even know whats going on.


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Old Post Jul-16-2009 22:52  Canada
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Registered: Sep 2005
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$463 on my Miata
$1194 on my Elantra


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DigiNut
You kids get off my lawn!



Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
You can refuse to pay for treatments however; its not as easy as just saying sorry we're not paying for more treatment. The biggest problem is not the people who are injured....they are just pawns in the game played by legal reps and treatment facilities. The treatment facilities submit treatment plans to the insurance company and the insurance company can either accept the treatment plans or refuse them. If they refuse the treatment plan then the injured party has to be examined by an independent doctor to see if the treatment plan that was submitted is reasonable. The treatment facilities can submit as many treatment plans as they want and there is nothing holding them accountable for the recommendations they make in the treatment plans. The insurance companies have to pay for the costs to have the doctors examine the injured parties. Then there are assessment facilities who send in requests for ortho assessments, psych assessment, neuro assessments, etc, etc, etc. when the injured parties don't even need these types of assessments. The scams start right from the tow truck drivers to the legal reps, to the treatment facilities, to the assessment facilities and to the injured people. In a lot of cases the injured parties don't even know whats going on.

Horrible. So how do Quebec and most of the continental USA get around it?


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Mach X
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Registered: May 2007
Location: Hart Plaza, Detroit

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Originally posted by Abercrombie
$1194 on my Elantra


What in the superfuck?! Did you mean Lamborghini? Or did you mean $194?


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musicsnob_NOT
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Toronto, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
welcome to my life.....of the 100 files on my desk I don't have a single where I've spent less than $50,000.00 and most likely 80-85 of the files will reach the $150,000.00 mark before they are closed. Most of the injuries are only soft tissue neck and back type injuries.

Heck, I had one guy want me to pay $20,000.00 for a garage he had added onto his house because he was affraid he might fall on the snow.


I've been driving for 20 years with no tickets or accidents. I had a claim last year when some old dude rear ended me and all I claimed was for the damaged exhaust system and bumper. No wonder the claims adjuster seemed shocked every time I talked to her when I said I was fine and didn't need any therapy or treatment. Fucking people scamming the system.

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Originally posted by devnull
arggggg, makes me wish i had insurance in QC again.

Paying $130 a month, saturn 2001, 24yr old, 1 speeding ticket(15 over)...which i dont think registered with the insurer!


When I started driving, I was paying $400 a year in quebec!


We really need to move to the same system quebec has!


Quebec can afford that because of the stupid equalization payments they get.

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
so glad that other people voted in this government for me!


As much of a Harris supporter I was and still am I do believe it was his government who changed the insurance system to the current one we have.


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E2EK1EL
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Toronto, Ontario

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
welcome to my life.....of the 100 files on my desk I don't have a single where I've spent less than $50,000.00 and most likely 80-85 of the files will reach the $150,000.00 mark before they are closed. Most of the injuries are only soft tissue neck and back type injuries.


Must be a very stressful and endless pain in the ass job, I really hope they pay you well.

Wanted to ask you what happens with a total lost accident?

Party “A” rear ends party “B” @ full force.
Party “B” car is a total lost

-Who’s insurance goes up?
-Who’s insurance pays for the car damages at the total end of the settlement of party “B”?
-How much is the towing of party “B” car?
-Does party “B” insurance goes up within the next 2 years?
(Even when he or she is not at fault)

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