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Originally posted by Subtle the cable advice was a bit..

It's not at all...

Trust me - I've been in the studio with people who have had decent releases and seen them them do things like hold up one end of a USB cable and go "so how do I get sound out of this, I can't see how this fits in to the speakers?"

Knowing cables saves you huge amount of time when something is not right/troubleshooting and is crucial if you're in any form of live situation.

I think every beginner should get know the 101 of cables and connectors.

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Originally posted by Existo22 Once you THINK you know everything you will become complacent.

I'll also add, when you KNOW something, your mind is closed and you can't learn anything new about whatever it is you "know". You'll be unwilling/ unable to try new techniques/ processes which may produce an even better result.

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Originally posted by wrzonance It's a hiphop forum. Their entire hardware setup is a Korg Triton

haha! so true...

whats wrong with triton?

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Originally posted by derail I'll also add, when you KNOW something, your mind is closed and you can't learn anything new about whatever it is you "know". You'll be unwilling/ unable to try new techniques/ processes which may produce an even better result.

what are you, a fucking twit? When you know something then you know it and you can build from there. Learning techniques isn't a bad thing. Just because you know certain methods doesn't mean you're going to somehow shy away from others. Unless you're a fucking retard. Not everyone is a close-minded dipshit like you seem to assume.

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Originally posted by floyd741 what are you, a fucking twit? When you know something then you know it and you can build from there. Learning techniques isn't a bad thing. Just because you know certain methods doesn't mean you're going to somehow shy away from others. Unless you're a fucking retard. Not everyone is a close-minded dipshit like you seem to assume.

I believe this is a matter of semantics - your definition of the word "knowledge" may differ from mine.

I know very little for certain. It's probably safe to say "On Earth, I know that a rock will fall to the ground if I let it go", since gravity can be assumed to always exist, given our present level of scientific knowledge.

However, I can't say something like "I know I need to highpass everything except my kick and bass, to give those instruments space down low". This is true for most of my productions/instruments, but there are times when this isn't the best option. I wouldn't make the above statement, because I don't "know" it. It's a technique which works well in the majority of cases, but it's not something I "know".

the one on
“PRACTICE THY CRAFT”
is really really true ..
+1

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This list sounds like it was made for people in 1996. We are entering an age where hardware is pretty much redundant. So is salesmen and many other aspects of the scene. Producers these days [anyone who actually needs an article like this] = a guy in a room with a pc and some monitors...and the rest is software. Thats the majority. Some may get a midi control for nostaliga or to "feel" like a "real" producer, but thats rare.

This artcle doesn't seem to reflect, or even acknowledge that fact. Why is midi, hardware manuals and cables relevent to most of the people coming up?

Why are we still talking about carburators?

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Last edited by sixofour.604 on Jul-18-2009 at 12:24

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Originally posted by sixofour.604 This list sounds like it was made for people in 1996. We are entering an age where hardware is pretty much redundant. So is salesmen and many other aspects of the scene. Producers these days [anyone who actually needs an article like this] = a guy in a room with a pc and some monitors...and the rest is software. Thats the majority. Some may get a midi control for nostaliga or to "feel" like a "real" producer, but thats rare. This artcle doesn't seem to reflect, or even acknowledge that fact. Why is midi, hardware manuals and cables relevent to most of the people coming up? Why are we still talking about carburators?

The list to me is common sense but it was written for noobs. Your comment on hardware is BS unless you see the "TEN COMMANDMENTS" as exclusively for "trance" "beat making" etcetera. . . Then I would disagree as well but understand your view point. There is also something called bands. Lots of hardware.

How exactly does a keyboard make you feel nostalgic? What is so rare about someone getting a midi controller? Everyone I know in music has one.

Midi keyboards or midi controllers are not really needed for anything anymore. We have mouse and keyboard. Most people either get them for the nostalgic feel [having something phsyical to handle] or because they think they need it in order to be a "real" producer.

Bands are completely and utterly different. Because bands play live. Even the most sucsessful EDM artist is only playing music he pre-made. In EDM, a DJ plays your music. And now-a-days its probably a .wav file that he plays, as vinyl is getting rarer. Bands also play every song differently each show, EDM doesn't. Maby the band adds another section to a song, adds a new vocal section, repeats some stuff, what ever. This doesn't happen in EDM.

Its just a fact of life, hardware is not a "requirement" for anything, so it goes that most people [who make music for money or fame] don't care for the nostaligic sound or feeling. The handful of "pro" artists you see with huge studios full of hardware, are not the majority of EDM producers. They are infact a tiny tiny tiny fringe minority.

Most people who drive cars, don't use premium fuel, or have superchargers or even wash their car, they don't do that little bit of extra, they are content with the bare minimum, there is no reason to think most producers go "that extra level" and get all this hardware gear.

You have a whole generation of producers coming up, who look at hardware as old and outdated. They don't care for it, they have their PC or laptop, and good monitors, and the rest is piratebay.

Go to any electronic forum, look at the questions people ask, and the setups people have, most of them are using pretty much software only, with maby some nice monitors, and in rare instances a midi controller.

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Originally posted by sixofour.604 Midi keyboards or midi controllers are not really needed for anything anymore. We have mouse and keyboard. Most people either get them for the nostalgic feel [having something phsyical to handle] or because they think they need it in order to be a "real" producer.

lol, i couldnt make shit without it.. if you know how to play its the most important tool of all.

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