yes, i agree with you there.

But this is different, this is a producer who is underground, who will always be underground and there really is no need to be all mysterious save for trying to be a big giant douche. I think people like that use it as some sort of cognitive excuse to explain why they aren't selling more records and have to work at the office unlike those damn sellouts.

I agree with you. Many producers probably do try to use this to hide the fact that they are unpopular and/or not selling albums. But I would like to add that for some selling albums isn't their "thing". As much as it sounds like bullshit, I have neither a need to be famous or sell albums, and at the same time my music is a farcry from popular. And I don't care to plaster my face everywhere.

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Originally posted by sixofour.604 And I don't care to plaster my face everywhere.

but isn't that the point ? nobody wants to see your face anywhere so it really isn't something that gives you more credibility. That is my whole argument. Trying to be anonymous when nobody would think twice about you is delusional.

And as far as a few stars you've posted, they don't have a choice. You actually think Ashanti had any say what the cover will look like ? You think any new major label act has any creative control over marketing ?

Do they have control over the album cover? You got me there, but I would still think they have atleast some influence, some of those guys have their own labels right?

Lets look at it this way, check out any unsigned artists who have albums, their covers aren't any better.

The idea about hiding the identity is I think "if I make myself look hidden or underground, then people will like me more" I think being underground or hidden is "the thing" these days. I mean the whole appeal of punk music is exactly that. Though some might argue a more realistic meaning.

Basicly, gain popularity by puspofully trying to make youirself appeare less than. Sounds stupid, but its amazing what people would do. People like humbleness, so the idea is if you 'act' humble you gain popularity.

Edit: RicheV has 666 posts. Heh.

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Originally posted by RichieV You really think someone making underground music perhaps putting more effort in his non identity than his music an act of humbleness ? The point is that he is a nobody , so why even conceal an identity nobody even cares about.

I dunno. I much prefer the non-identity thing to the legions of producers who write glowing biographies about themselves and post them up on MySpace, praising their own accomplishments and calling themselves "classically trained" because they took a few piano lessons when they were six years old.



I can agree it's kind of silly to make a public show of hiding your identity, though. Smells of an attempt to create publicity. At the same time I have to wonder whether it is the artists themselves or the music journalists creating the hype around the "no identity" thing. Could be the latter.

That article got me wondering which TA forum members are secretly selling thousands of tracks...

Identity-related paradoxes aside, it was a pretty interesting read. Thanks for sharing it Eric!

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I dunno. I much prefer the non-identity thing to the legions of producers who write glowing biographies about themselves and post them up on MySpace, praising their own accomplishments and calling themselves "classically trained" because they took a few piano lessons when they were six years old. I can agree it's kind of silly to make a public show of hiding your identity, though. Smells of an attempt to create publicity. At the same time I have to wonder whether it is the artists themselves or the music journalists creating the hype around the "no identity" thing. Could be the latter.

I've seen some of these bios, and they don't even compare to the bullshit DJs write about themselves. You would be surprised how far they will go to make switching records sound like it requires the hand of god. The funniest thing I saw was some guy who accidentally slipped into first person, and he didn't bother correcting it.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

There is one thing about the article though that I can completely identify with...

“It is cyclical, as is the process behind it. I get into a kind of self-induced hypnosis when I make music. When I can listen to a loop over and over again, for hours, and not get bored, I know it is perfect. It sucks me in.”

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