Only the first two acts played (8-9:45ish), before they cut them off. Then, they brought up the lights until 12:00a, and then brought up the house lights then and started to kick everyone out.

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This isn't the first time shit like this happened.

What was it like a year ago when a bunch of kids knocked down a wall at one of the Hard fests and a few hundred people got in to the sold out show?

Its the crowd that they are dealing with has a lot to do with.

I remember earlier this year when i drove up to see Deadmau5 at the apple store. All those kids fucked that up to.

As far as a refund, has any massive given money back?

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Originally posted by Yookeroo That sucks. But is it now possible that there will be a makeup date for Underworld? One that involves more experienced promoters?

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Originally posted by Nerologic This isn't the first time shit like this happened. What was it like a year ago when a bunch of kids knocked down a wall at one of the Hard fests and a few hundred people got in to the sold out show? Its the crowd that they are dealing with has a lot to do with. I remember earlier this year when i drove up to see Deadmau5 at the apple store. All those kids fucked that up to. As far as a refund, has any massive given money back?

The last ju ju beats that got shut down a week before the event(in 2001-2002). they give full refunds.

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Originally posted by jonmitz Don't. Oversell. Tickets. Not hard.

It is hard when you are a greedy bastard.

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Originally posted by junkproject The last ju ju beats that got shut down a week before the event(in 2001-2002). they give full refunds.

Right but that's a full week before, not much cash was wasted.

Last night they through the party like if it had gone all night, TONS of money was blown.

Yeah i just saw their twitter:

Full refund will be made available for those who purchased tickets to HARD SUMMER more info coming ASAP.

I see kids rushign the gates every yearat monster massive, in mass. Always the same spot every year two. Dozens of peopel will jump and go through and they may catch one or two people because it's almost like it's organized and they all go at the right time when Security isn't paying attention to that area...

Anyhow, I see that happening and don't see MM getting shut down.

And at EDC, didn't they shut down the music in the Coliseum itself for awhile because of the crowd?

Anyhow, this is two major EDM events in LA in a row that had the fire marshall involved it looks like. It could make trouble for getting permits in the future if it keeps happening.

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Originally posted by Nerologic Right but that's a full week before, not much cash was wasted. Last night they through the party like if it had gone all night, TONS of money was blown.

I am sure the organizers got some fat insurance. Not sure to what extent they got it or what you can even get on your insurance for these events (outside of insurance for full cancellations out of your control), but maybe there's something where if they are deemed to have enough security (by legal standards), etc etc etc...and that it's not necessarily from bad planning...maybe they make a claim for insurance.

I dunno.

Shhaaaadddddyyyyyy Promoters. They get what they deserve. Karma is a bitch.

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I don't think it has anything to do with them being shady. They just bit off way more than they could chew with Underworld headlining. The combination of them, Chromeo, Tiga, Sebastian, Busy P, Steve Aoki (still makes me lol...lol) etc...it's a hipster kid's wet dream.

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Originally posted by bas I don't think it has anything to do with them being shady. They just bit off way more than they could chew with Underworld headlining. The combination of them, Chromeo, Tiga, Sebastian, Busy P, Steve Aoki (still makes me lol...lol) etc...it's a hipster kid's wet dream.

according to some reliable sources, they over sold the event by 3000. Thats A LOT!!! They've also had a history of thinking more about $$ then the scene itself.

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