Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada
we will see. the fact is that we love babysitting laws and a lot of people support this crap. And a lot of other similar laws have already passed.
You cant idly dismiss these things anymore and hope it goes away.
Aug-11-2009 19:40
DigiNut
You kids get off my lawn!
Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe
I am against this law. Instead of being forced to obtain licenses, cyclists should simply be put in the stocks and horse-whipped whenever they run a red light on a busy street.
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Aug-11-2009 19:43
Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada
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Originally posted by DigiNut
I am against this law. Instead of being forced to obtain licenses, cyclists should simply be put in the stocks and horse-whipped whenever they run a red light on a busy street.
Same for pedestrians who jwalk right in front of cars!!
Aug-11-2009 19:44
PivotTechno
senseless
Registered: Feb 2008
Location: Citizen, World
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Originally posted by Cro_Addict
I fucking hate the cyclists as well!
None of you hate cyclists - you hate stupid, inattentive people riding on bicycles.
There's a difference.
Kind of like how when I'm riding my bike I get annoyed at stupid, inattentive people who drive cars and yak obliviously on their cell phones or scarf down lunch-on-the-road while doing so, conveniently forgetting to perform certain pertinent actions in the process - like say, signaling when they're turning.
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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I say Tax and Fine everything...its the only fair way to do it.
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Originally posted by Jayx1
Starting with every single word typed above
'Cuz they pay me every time I do!
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Originally posted by Jayx1 But licensing? REFLECTIVE VESTS? and licence plates???
Jonathan Steinbloom: (referring to his mother) "You could say she was overly protective - I just like to think she cared about me, which she did, a lot. And I was a member of the chess team and whenever we would have chess tournaments I had to wear a protective helmet, I had to wear a football helmet. Now who knows what she was thinking? Maybe she thought that we might have fallen maybe and impaled our heads on a pointy bishop or something, I don't know."
Licensed bikers? In Toronto??? That will be the day....
Next we'll be taxed for the air we breathe. We'll be wearing air monitors to track our oxygen intake and will be taxed accordingly. Similar to the longer you live, the more taxes you pay. Better learn how to hold your breath. What's with this war on bikes that the Star and other newspapers are brewing up? We should be encouraging greener and healthier modes of transportation not putting fees on them. "Completed" dedicated bike lanes are are whats needed. They should stretch from one end of the city to the other and should have a barrier so cars cannot cross into them. What a big city like toronto needs to do is encourage people to use bikes and provide safer areas for the cyclists. The current Toronto bike path infrastucture is insufficient as it lacks continous paths. In Montreal over the last 5 years the bike lanes have improved drastically, and the city is much better for it. Forced licencing is just a polution causing deterent, the city should spend tax payer money on better bike paths instead of this.
Aug-11-2009 20:11
Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada
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Originally posted by love_child
Licensed bikers? In Toronto??? That will be the day....
Next we'll be taxed for the air we breathe. We'll be wearing air monitors to track our oxygen intake and will be taxed accordingly. Similar to the longer you live, the more taxes you pay. Better learn how to hold your breath. What's with this war on bikes that the Star and other newspapers are brewing up? We should be encouraging greener and healthier modes of transportation not putting fees on them. "Completed" dedicated bike lanes are are whats needed. They should stretch from one end of the city to the other and should have a barrier so cars cannot cross into them. What a big city like toronto needs to do is encourage people to use bikes and provide safer areas for the cyclists. The current Toronto bike path infrastucture is insufficient as it lacks continous paths. In Montreal over the last 5 years the bike lanes have improved drastically, and the city is much better for it. Forced licencing is just a polution causing deterent, the city should spend tax payer money on better bike paths instead of this.
Bike lanes but not at the expense of car lanes! After all we have winter in toronto and already a severely lacking infrastructure for ALL modes of transport. Id like to see bike highways built through the chain of parks and along rail corridors similar to car free ways with pedestrian overpasses. I wouldnt even be against elevated sidewalks in order for bikes and cars to pass freely underneath. Lets just not cut the already over capacity roads that handle thousands of cars per hour to handle 100 bikes per hour at peak!
Aug-11-2009 20:17
Engine9
Loin King
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Planet earth, tdot central
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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I say Tax and Fine everything...its the only fair way to do it.
oh yeess
and make them pay insurance while u are at it, right?
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Aug-11-2009 20:26
Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada
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Originally posted by Engine9
oh yeess
and make them pay insurance while u are at it, right?
that will come next
Aug-11-2009 20:27
ChemEnhanced
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Milton, ON Canada
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Originally posted by Engine9
oh yeess
and make them pay insurance while u are at it, right?
damn right....the more claims the better....money in my pocket.
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Aug-11-2009 20:39
Cosmic Fur
Debbie Downer
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Mississauga, Canada
They should revamp the whole way biking is addressesed in Toronto. Bikers should NOT share the road with cars. You have a 1500 pound object moving and sharing the road with a 150 pound object? How fucked is that? All bike lanes should look like this:
Then we can start focusing on the smaller issues. Of course, we're too far into the current way we do things, so obviously no turning back now .
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Aug-11-2009 20:40
Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada
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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
They should revamp the whole way biking is addressesed in Toronto. Bikers should NOT share the road with cars. You have a 1500 pound object moving and sharing the road with a 150 pound object? How fucked is that? All bike lanes should look like this:
Then we can start focusing on the smaller issues. Of course, we're too far into the current way we do things, so obviously no turning back now .
That pic is nuts! The bike lane looks as wide as the car lane or should i say vice versa! Also that road looks like its not very well traveled to begin with. What a waste!
If we had room to spare for wide bike lanes id be for it. But also remember, Vancouver is more of a year round bike city than we are. It makes a little more sense there. But to give the biggest objects on the road as much or less space than pedestrians and bikes. Thats a little bit far flung.
Aug-11-2009 20:45
smuncky
Architect
Registered: Dec 2003
Location: richmond hill, ontario, canada
cyclists should also wear life jackets. it only makes sense.
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