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DJ RANN
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quote:
Originally posted by Akridrot
Yes! It's possible!

How expensive? Did you do this a while ago? Perhaps prices will have gone down by now.

Hmmm. What is your occupation? What field(s) is this? Sounds like you guys are pretty skilled at helping people bring their ideas/workarounds to life.

I don't want to ignore this. Hardware in and of itself isn't the complete solution, but it makes things much easier. A cheap midi controller would probably be ideal for careful production where you understand every single thing that each of the knobs, faders, sliders, buttons, etc. are doing without having to look.

Probably, I would have to program some kind of solution that allowed me to change what the controllers are assigned to with hot keys. Ctrl+1 for mixer, Ctrl+2 for piano roll, etc...


I was working for the largest audio retailer in Europe that also made the first Audio specific PC's. (I'm sure some of you can guess what brand )

Yes, it was interesting but in all honestly, it would be a seriously cumbersome way to work when you actually have the advantage of sight.

The tactile interface was cool but feeling around a waveform rather than just being able to look at the whole thing is not a faster or more intuitive way to work. It may seem great but this as for someone who was blind and they didn't have another option.

It also cost 10k (pounds) just for the PC and screen.

If you want to get away from looking at a screen just buy hardware or learn to play real instruments. Changing the DAW system so you're not using one of the primary senses is not really the greatest answer.

The best way to do this would be to hire an engineer - it will let you focus on the music without touching anything and it will probably cost you less.

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Energy_3
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Yes, it was interesting but in all honestly, it would be a seriously cumbersome way to work when you actually have the advantage of sight.


I know you may as well put on a sleep band to cover your eyes!

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The tactile interface was cool but feeling around a waveform rather than just being able to look at the whole thing is not a faster or more intuitive way to work. It may seem great but this as for someone who was blind and they didn't have another option.


A full voice automated system would be the best approach i think (but super complicated i guess, and many hours in development.

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If you want to get away from looking at a screen just buy hardware or learn to play real instruments. Changing the DAW system so you're not using one of the primary senses is not really the greatest answer.


agree stick with hardware its the easiest way to remove one of your senses after you build familiarity with the equipment. But, then would you really benefit from this, perhaps?


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Re: Re: Re: Re: Producing completely in the dark. Audio / Tactile producing for the blind

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Originally posted by Energy_3
+1

you could run an experiment. however scientific experiments based on hypotheses also subject themselves to infallibility, which is the foundation of experimentation. So Akridot you would need further proof to substantiate your argument. But, i agree with you all the way. Some people arn't as open minded or see the change as so minute that its negligible as to whether any significant variation occurred whatsoever.


They have

Producing in the dark is not enough for your brain to reconfigure itself to alot more sensory processing to the ears rather than from the eyes.

They have also done studies which show that only being blind as a child produces significant increase in auditory processing.

So it really is a silly idea.

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MrJiveBoJingles
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I don't think it would change the actual auditory processing, but it would probably change your work habits and what you concentrate on quite drastically, which could have an effect on your sound.

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RichieV
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I don't think it would change the actual auditory processing, but it would probably change your work habits and what you concentrate on quite drastically, which could have an effect on your sound.


definitely

but it seemed like the OP had some illusions regarding killing one sense making the other stronger. Unless you are actually blind, it won't. The ear develops out of necessity unlike people who are not blind and have no biological use for a super ear.

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They have

Producing in the dark is not enough for your brain to reconfigure itself to alot more sensory processing to the ears rather than from the eyes.

They have also done studies which show that only being blind as a child produces significant increase in auditory processing.

So it really is a silly idea.


I see so that says something about evolution and genetic dispositions then i guess.


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I see so that says something about evolution and genetic dispositions then i guess.


I don't quite follow. What does evolution or genetic disposition have to do with anything I said .

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I don't quite follow. What does evolution or genetic disposition have to do with anything I said .


well being its a silly idea given the nature of advancement would be limited in any particular case therefore to me it suggests that the evolutionary pathway is limited in change over shorter periods of time - thus making it that we are predisposed to that particular genetic characteristic.

if i still dont make sense tell me to shut up!


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I'd rather produce in the light because i dont have a lit up keyboard, both keyboards.












































































































































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I find mixing on a console with my eyes closed yields much better results. It is too easy to get distracted by meters!

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