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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Load of shit, quite frankly.

Why do you say that? I never said there was anything inherently wrong with going to the gym or attempting to bulk up, only that if you seek a forum on it where you can brag about your physical statistics that you obviously have body issues. Would you agree with this? Why/why not?

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Couldn't someone join a bodybuilding forum for information and workout suggestions rather than to brag about their body?

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Originally posted by Domesticated Why do you say that? I never said there was anything inherently wrong with going to the gym or attempting to bulk up, only that if you seek a forum on it where you can brag about your physical statistics that you obviously have body issues. Would you agree with this? Why/why not?

I disagree with your assumption that joining a bodybuilding forum = obsession with physical appearance. I started off going to the gym with friends, but if I'd been starting from scratch on my own I'd definitely want people to discuss it with. I train at home now and I generally don't have anyone to talk to when I want to change things or alter my routine. I've learned plenty of things I've tried out from coming across forum threads from Google searches.

As for statistics and so on, most people set themselves goals to give purpose and drive to the monotony of training. Currently my goals are to lift certain weights, but other people often have weight or size gains that they keep updated so they stay motivated. It's not necessarily bragging.

Finally, I just find it annoying when people associate lifting weights with psychological insecurity. It consistently amazes me that the same people who spend time and money cutting and styling their hair, keeping their teeth clean and buying clothes can say, without irony, that it's insecurity to try and better your physical appearance through gym work. It's basically projected neurosis, because almost everyone who doesn't want to die alone gives a shit about how they look, they're just intimidated and/or too lazy to make the extra effort.

I'm not saying the above applies to you, and I'm aware that there are plenty of insecure wankers in any gym, but you're touching upon that kind of double-think.

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Hahaha I seen that thread. Fucking miscers.

It's wrong but too funny

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Finally, I just find it annoying when people associate lifting weights with psychological insecurity. It consistently amazes me that the same people who spend time and money cutting and styling their hair, keeping their teeth clean and buying clothes can say, without irony, that it's insecurity to try and better your physical appearance through gym work. It's basically projected neurosis, because almost everyone who doesn't want to die alone gives a shit about how they look, they're just intimidated and/or too lazy to make the extra effort.

Okay, points taken, but I still think that people who are serious enough about 'bodybuilding' (as opposed to 'lifting weights') to sign up to a forum probably have body issues.

I have put on around 5kgs from weight lifting over the past two years. It's a casual thing for me that I do as much for the social aspect as for the health benefits and increased satisfaction with my appearance.

However, there is also the point to consider that we all have 'body issues', no matter how high our self-esteem or how perfect our body. Who doesn't lift weights for a month and then marvel at the slight change of definition they can see in the mirror and gain a small boost in self-esteem? I know I do. While I suppose there is a difference between 'doing it for yourself' as you and I are, as opposed to doing it so other people will think better of you as those with low self esteem probably do, it's all tied back to your own perceptions of your body, and all I'm arguing is that those who consider 'bodybuilding' a hobby or take it seriously are compensating for something.

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