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Seppuku
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Registered: Jul 2008
Location: Atlanta

quote:
Originally posted by supersaw abuse
and seriously, if he were bandwagoning, wouldn't he go the way of adam k & soha or wolfgang gartner and start making stuff that's all deadmau5y? until radio slave is making the millions that he richly deserves i don't think minimal is exactly in vogue

furthermore, who cares about how "underground" somebody is? as long as it's good i'll happily listen, regardless of what others think

Its less about money and more about him trying to fit in with the "underground" coolness of "minimal music."


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Old Post Aug-31-2009 00:39  Japan
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refuge
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Registered: Dec 2002
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That was a good read. Don't have anything against him - he's sort of a hit/miss with me. I've liked a few remixes and Rib Cage. He is very smart and I respect his honesty/integrity. Probably won't play his tracks though.


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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

The impression I get is he got sick of the direction Deep Dish were going, however profitable it may be. If you look at what Sharam has done since they split, it was probably his influence.

However, I think Dubfire wanted to have his cake and eat it - he wanted to make more serious music, but he also wanted to make a fair amount of money from it, too.


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Location: The Wedge

im ok w/some of his productions/remixes, but his DJ'ing effen blows. saw him @ Space for Yoshitoshi a cup o years ago & the whole night was wack until Fanciulli pulled a Mighty Mouse

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supersaw abuse
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Registered: Apr 2009
Location: Michigan

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
However, I think Dubfire wanted to have his cake and eat it - he wanted to make more serious music, but he also wanted to make a fair amount of money from it, too.

what makes you think that? i mean regardless of which direction he went in, he would have been in demand as a dj by virtue of being half of deep dish. i just think that he was very prolific for a couple years because he had some ideas bouncing around in his head, as he said in the interview, and now he's taking it easy (or easier, anyway)

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Give him flack but he has done more than any DJ here.

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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

I don't hate the guy at all, I just think his music is boring.


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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

quote:
Originally posted by supersaw abuse
what makes you think that? i mean regardless of which direction he went in, he would have been in demand as a dj by virtue of being half of deep dish. i just think that he was very prolific for a couple years because he had some ideas bouncing around in his head, as he said in the interview, and now he's taking it easy (or easier, anyway)


Because it was such a change of direction from a deep house/progressive house career to suddenly make minimal white noise techno, which just happened to be the trendiest scene around when he did it. Believe me, I've seen Dubfire gigs advertised and he was packing them in. I doubt he'd get those slots if he were still making progressive house.


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supersaw abuse
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Registered: Apr 2009
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quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Because it was such a change of direction from a deep house/progressive house career to suddenly make minimal white noise techno, which just happened to be the trendiest scene around when he did it. Believe me, I've seen Dubfire gigs advertised and he was packing them in. I doubt he'd get those slots if he were still making progressive house.

but if, as you said, sharam was the driving force behind deep dish's productions, who's to say that ali wasn't just going the way he wanted to go? i mean, it's awfully silly to make music you don't like just because you think it will draw in the cool kids/be profitable/get you laid/etc. ali seems like a genuine guy to me and i have absolutely nothing wrong with the direction he's taken since leaving deep dish

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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
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I only meant their last productions, the George Is On era.


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His productions are for the most part functional, yet otherwise uninteresting.


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quote:
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Levels is...decent...damn better than a lot of the shite dominating the charts at the moment. It sounds absolutely nothing like...a billion and one similar tracks in this big-room style. I always had a soft spot.

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Durrrtysouth
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Registered: Dec 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Seppuku
He's a textbook example of a trendhopper.



based on your thinking, Sven Vath would be a trendhopper too? The freakin founder and pioneer of Cocoon? He has had alot more commercial career before cocoon than Deep Dish.
And if you guys even consider trivializing Sven than I literally have zero respect for your thoughts.


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