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Akridrot
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quote:
Originally posted by Energy_3
some of us may be interested in reading it, thanks.


http://www.amazon.com/Mixing-Audio-...s/dp/0240520688

Or just google: "Mixing Audio: Concepts, Practices and Tools"

I strongly advise you to read this book critically. Don't just read until there aren't any words left. Get a looseleaf notebook and summarize all it's telling you... this is one of those books that you extract a lot of useful information from and incorporate it into your audio life, intelligently.

This is how you improve at breakneck speeds, regardless of the book (as long as it's a good book).


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Energy_3
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quote:
Originally posted by Akridrot
http://www.amazon.com/Mixing-Audio-...s/dp/0240520688

Or just google: "Mixing Audio: Concepts, Practices and Tools"

I strongly advise you to read this book critically. Don't just read until there aren't any words left. Get a looseleaf notebook and summarize all it's telling you... this is one of those books that you extract a lot of useful information from and incorporate it into your audio life, intelligently.

This is how you improve at breakneck speeds, regardless of the book (as long as it's a good book).


thanks bud appreciate it.


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derail
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quote:
Originally posted by Akridrot
Simply put, today's producers have become digital pack-rats. How can we change this?


This is a nice broad generalisation.

How about, some of today's producers are digital pack-rats. Many of today's producers already think the way you believe they should - getting the most out of their tools rather than looking for "more more more".

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alanzo
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Everyone uses what they're most comfortable with. There are several musicians who have made epically great songs with just a copy of Reason.... the same goes for those who used million dollar studios. Everyone uses what they're comfortable with. Me, I like physical gear, especially my Nord Lead 3... because it's the instrument I'm most comfortable with.

For most music, the most important thing are the songs. Great songs = great music. Great songs + great gear and people behind them = epic music.


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Kismet7
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More toys can inspire more imagination and ideas. If a normal kid only has 1 toy while growing up, or one board game, there is only a limited amount of imagination and creativity they can develop if they've only played with one toy as a kid. Toys develop the mind and ask kids to be creative from an early age, just like a synth can ask a producer to be creative. If a normal kid had about 10 toys to play with, i'd imagine their imaginations are a bit broader and their ideas more complex, with more modular pieces to the ideas. Same goes if you had just 1 friend growing up or 10 friends...having 10 friends you are bound to be more diverse and versatile, while the kid with just 1 friend is likely to be more simple because they've only experienced one other personality and character besides their parents and family. So if you're making music with just one synth, its hard to have a versatile sound, and its easy for another producer with the same exact synth to replicate your sound. Just my philosophy, nothing out of a book ; )

Though a lot of music has likely been made with just one synth and a sequencer/recorder, limiting yourself to one synth would be simply limiting yourself. Adding more synths often can inspire the imagination and ideas, so this is why i'd say keep adding instruments, till you find the ones that allow you to translate your ideas into music as accurately as possible. I'll be adding a bit of hardware over the next 6 months, to improve sound quality and maybe inspire some ideas I have'nt come accross yet.


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Spacey Orange
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totally agree with the op, and because of his reasoning i've recently purchased the following:







if i can't make good music on these, then i doubt i'll make it on some much more expensive and complicated gear.


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I'm getting a new HDD and only reinstalling the VSTs that I want to use. That way I can have less and really focus on them.


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quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
If a normal kid had about 10 toys to play with, i'd imagine their imaginations are a bit broader and their ideas more complex, with more modular pieces to the ideas. Same goes if you had just 1 friend growing up or 10 friends...having 10 friends you are bound to be more diverse and versatile
Absolutely, although having 100 toys will likely make you loose interest in most of them, so i think its wise to find the right balance.


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for me i make more when i have less. i didnt make a single tune while i had hardware synths. when i sold them stuff slowly started going together again. now im on a laptop with Reason, Ableton and Logic and i dont need VSTs really. Needs some upgrades though, to get rewire support in Ableton etc. And I only need to learn Ableton and Logic good before even considering anthing else. I have midicontroller which i dont use but i plan to use it in the future with ableton live, but i might just get rid of it for now. its poison in my head when i dont use it.

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Check out the producer masterclass with Nathan Fake, this guy is a real inspirarion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aIARLPv3MU


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Akridrot
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quote:
Originally posted by derail
This is a nice broad generalisation.

How about, some of today's producers are digital pack-rats. Many of today's producers already think the way you believe they should - getting the most out of their tools rather than looking for "more more more".


You're right, I made an uncalled-for generalization. Kismet7 makes an excellent (counter?) point for the other side.

The ideal lies between the two extremes, I think Subtle summed it up best.

Right now, my mindset is "learn the foundations of what you're doing, do NOT learn the software or hardware used to do it, learn what you're doing on a general, basic level so that you can apply it anywhere else." I'm binging on books about music theory, audio production, and programming. The skills I learn are more important to me than whatever I use them on. I want to be able to adapt.


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MrJiveBoJingles
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quote:
Originally posted by Terrence Parker
Check out the producer masterclass with Nathan Fake, this guy is a real inspirarion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aIARLPv3MU

Great first vid, now I have to watch the whole thing.

Interesting how he doesn't like drawing in automations. Also how he records most of the parts into CoolEdit rather than leaving them as MIDI in the sequencer.

And he uses Cubase VST 5, released back in 2000.

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