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echosystm
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Registered: Jul 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Energy_3
yes, i agree it seems to be people from china. no disrespect to any authentic Chinese trance producers here.


...because bots are human too

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sixofour.604
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You guys are actually mad at one thread? Lol fucking pitiful. Ontop of that, in order to see any spam, you have to actually go in and read the thread. If that one thread bothers you, then its you with the problem. Humans spam these forums with stupid questions, alot more often than these bots, and ontop of that, what the bots spam..is actualy useful!

You know how you fix this situation? ... you don't go into the thread.


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cryophonik
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Registered: Jan 2008
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quote:
Originally posted by sixofour.604

You know how you fix this situation? ... you don't go into the thread.


I don't understand. Aren't we supposed to reply to all threads and keep bumping them to the top? Please explain.


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Mr.Mystery
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Registered: Dec 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by sixofour.604
You guys are actually mad at one thread?

Are you blind by any chance?


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sixofour.604
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Are you blind by any chance?


No, the first page has one spam thread. The other threads are pages down..so who cares about them?


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Zak McKracken
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quote:
Originally posted by sixofour.604
No, the first page has one spam thread. The other threads are pages down..so who cares about them?

obviously u are blind. their everywhere. look again.

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sixofour.604
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I don't see them honestly, maby there is a filter or something I dunno.. I see one thread, its the one about ripping Zune movies or what ever.


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Acton
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: London

quote:
Originally posted by sixofour.604
I don't see them honestly, maby there is a filter or something I dunno.. I see one thread, its the one about ripping Zune movies or what ever.


That's not spam, that's a genuine useful product that has added value to everyone's lives, despite the fact its not analogue, doesn't sidechain and doesn't add cowbell.

Try it though, it's brilliant.


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DigiNut
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery The problems with these spambots aren't going to go away simply by banning a few of them.

Sadly, that seems to be the policy for dealing with them.

I think you could fairly easily disrupt the economics of these spammers by requiring 10 posts before allowing a new user to start a new thread, and automatically blocking any user with fewer than 10 posts who fires off more than 5 in a short time period (say 10 minutes).

It'd probably also stop a lot of retard n00b threads, forcing them to use the search function first.

You could even loosen the rule by only blocking posts with links. Most new users who aren't blatant spammers aren't going to tossing URLs into their first posts, and spammers can't really benefit unless they can get people to click a link.

I made this suggestion a while back and never really got a concrete answer as to why it wasn't practical. Oh well.


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sixofour.604
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Change the script.

Post 20 times, 8 minute wait each time, in a random thread [post info not related to the spam, such as one word replies], then post the spam thread. Put all the info in the thread and add broken links.


I just surpassed all of your deterrents Diginut


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johncannons1
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Registered: Feb 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia

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Originally posted by sixofour.604
Change the script.

Post 20 times, 8 minute wait each time, in a random thread [post info not related to the spam, such as one word replies], then post the spam thread. Put all the info in the thread and add broken links.


I just surpassed all of your deterrents Diginut


somthing is better than nothing.

your always negative or never try to actually HELP the situation.

rather than pissing on someone elses idea come up with some yourself.


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DigiNut
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

As I said, the point is not to prevent any kind of spam under any circumstances - that's impossible. The point is just to disrupt the economics. If it takes a spammer 2 hours to be able to start spamming then he's likely to go find an easier target (right now TA is a VERY easy target).

Moreover, spammers use scripts, and most scripts aren't sophisticated enough to handle that kind of state. Most scripts aren't even capable of going through existing threads, let alone posting in them, they just hit the registration form and then immediately start crapping new threads everywhere. Of course, the scripts could be made more sophisticated, but it'll only happen if (a) the spammers actually know what the triggers are, and (b) if they want to waste the time updating the code. If every site is doing it, they'll find a way around it; if a few sites are doing it, they don't care.

And once they find a way around it, you can block that. In the example above, the protection could be updated to auto-ban new users who post exactly or very close to 8 minutes apart (or really any specific timing at all). Again, not a normal human behaviour, and by restricting it to new users (the Achilles' Heel of spambots) you minimize the chance of any "collateral damage".

There's also a pretty good chance that if the spam bots started posting random shit in random threads, they'd get caught before having the chance to actually spam. Again, not a sure thing, but anything to disrupt the economics is likely to get them to give up and find another rube.


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