Not every great track has had groove/shuffle manipulations...

thats left to taste

juss sayin'

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Originally posted by meriter Your primary focus should be making good music. That's all. No one gives a shit how you do it. And the people that do are fags.

I am so rigid right now.


Oh, I mean, go easy on the quantize. Gotta keep it loose mang.

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Originally posted by Nightshift Not every great track has had groove/shuffle manipulations... thats left to taste juss sayin'

listen to enough shit and your standards will adjust accordingly.

LOL

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Originally posted by meriter Your primary focus should be making good music. That's all. No one gives a shit how you do it. And the people that do are fags.

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Originally posted by RichieV listen to enough shit and your standards will adjust accordingly.

I have been listening to trance for 10 years.

Don't think you wanna go there buddy.

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Originally posted by meriter Your primary focus should be making good music. That's all. No one gives a shit how you do it. And the people that do are fags.

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Originally posted by Nightshift I have been listening to trance for 10 years. Don't think you wanna go there buddy.

go where ?

Congrats on your 10 year achievement.

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Originally posted by RichieV go where ? Congrats on your 10 year achievement.

Well generally saying "listen to enough shit and your standards will adjust accordingly." is basically implying that I have listened to very little "shit" and implying that you have listened to all or most of all the greatest trance tunes ever created and that they ALL have these qualities that you have previously stated.

Even if this were so (which it is not), what you're saying is left up to taste.

Some people like butter, some people like margarine.

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Originally posted by meriter Your primary focus should be making good music. That's all. No one gives a shit how you do it. And the people that do are fags.

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Originally posted by Nightshift Well generally saying "listen to enough shit and your standards will adjust accordingly." is basically implying that I have listened to very little "shit" and implying that you have listened to all or most of all the greatest trance tunes ever created and that they ALL have these qualities that you have previously stated. Even if this were so (which it is not), what you're saying is left up to taste. Some people like butter, some people like margarine.

and lard let us all not forget a good lump of lard

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Originally posted by Nightshift Well generally saying "listen to enough shit and your standards will adjust accordingly." is basically implying that I have listened to very little "shit" and implying that you have listened to all or most of all the greatest trance tunes ever created and that they ALL have these qualities that you have previously stated.

I interpreted it the other way - listen to enough low-quality garbage (and most trance - no, most EDM in general is of that quality), and you cease to notice its obvious deficiencies. I'm pretty sure he was saying that you have listened to a lot of shit, and have lowered your standards as a result.

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Originally posted by DigiNut I interpreted it the other way - listen to enough low-quality garbage (and most trance - no, most EDM in general is of that quality), and you cease to notice its obvious deficiencies. I'm pretty sure he was saying that you have listened to a lot of shit, and have lowered your standards as a result.

LOL instagation at its finest.

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Originally posted by meriter Your primary focus should be making good music. That's all. No one gives a shit how you do it. And the people that do are fags.

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Originally posted by Nightshift Well generally saying "listen to enough shit and your standards will adjust accordingly." is basically implying that I have listened to very little "shit" and implying that you have listened to all or most of all the greatest trance tunes ever created and that they ALL have these qualities that you have previously stated. Even if this were so (which it is not), what you're saying is left up to taste. Some people like butter, some people like margarine.

He's implying the more music of any genre you listen to the more you will think is garbage and the higher your standards will raise. Strength in numbers.

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Originally posted by mfitterer1 He's implying the more music of any genre you listen to the more you will think is garbage and the higher your standards will raise. Strength in numbers.

Well according to your statement then I guess my standards are pretty high and I still say not all tracks need groove & shuffle manipulations to be good.

thats just as bad as saying all trance tracks need a supersaw to be good.

I'm juss sayin this post was completely ridiculous:

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Originally posted by RichieV the trick is that you create tension between the actual tracks. you don't just apply a groove template to the entire project. You have to do it strategically to certain elements so they push against other elements that are perhaps more on the beat. Quantizing something with a shuffle feel to the entire track sounds just as robotic and stale as something is completely straight. again this is something that takes alot of time to get. It is unfortunate that people spend about 90% of their energy getting a good kick drum when their are so many more important issues that actually have to do with music. Applying the preset shuffle quantizing preset is like using an Ozone preset to master. It might sound a little better but it will never be great. People spend so much time on the dumbest things. I remember the supersaw threads 2 years ago. The kick drum threads were almost as annoying. Is it really that hard to do ? I just don't get the obsession with things that are so rudimentary.

oh the irony.

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Last edited by Nightshift on Sep-15-2009 at 01:44