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Originally posted by rabbitjoker I voted as well. Socialists won again.

Since when are the Liberals socialists???

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Actually its more like why should the government be taking away so much of their wealth that they become poor and dependent on the government to provide them with wealth? This is the fundamental principal that most socialists miss. The idea of conservative economics is to prevent people from becoming poor and dependent in the first place.

So the hard working moms doing cash at Walmart type companies, because the majority of them don't look like college students, would benefit from not having health care for them and their children in favor of more tax cuts for their multi billion dollar employers?

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Originally posted by miketg23 So the hard working moms doing cash at Walmart type companies, because the majority of them don't look like college students, would benefit from not having health care for them and their children in favor of more tax cuts for their multi billion dollar employers?

Are you really this ignorant? Health care isn't free, everyone pays taxes to support that system. If we didn't have those "multi billion dollar employers" like Wal-mart, these people might not have jobs at all, and with lower corporate taxes (not that anyone is actually lowering corporate taxes) their jobs would be paying better wages.

Most of these people are widows and retirees that wouldn't even be able to earn a living if it weren't for Wal-mart. Go fucking talk to one of these people some day and ask them just how much they really hate their employer before you start talking shit from the comfort of your nice new 3-bedroom home. But no, you hate them because they have "billions" of dollars in revenues.

People need to learn some goddamn economics. A billion dollars is a lot to you as the unambitious financially illiterate drone that you are, but to a corporation that amount represents just a tiny fraction of the total wages, taxes, supply costs, electricity costs, legal costs (of course they'll get sued - they make billions!), and other operational costs of the business. And where do those profits go? Back to the creditors and shareholders of course, so the former can afford to lend you the money that you're constantly borrowing and the latter can use the money to help that business or another business grow and employ more people and pay better wages and bigger employee bonuses.

"Walmart type companies" are doing more to help these people than any asshole armchair activist ever could.

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Originally posted by miketg23 Since when are the Liberals socialists???

Since pretty much the inception of the party...

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Originally posted by DigiNut Are you really this ignorant? Health care isn't free, everyone pays taxes to support that system. If we didn't have those "multi billion dollar employers" like Wal-mart, these people might not have jobs at all, and with lower corporate taxes (not that anyone is actually lowering corporate taxes) their jobs would be paying better wages. Most of these people are widows and retirees that wouldn't even be able to earn a living if it weren't for Wal-mart. Go fucking talk to one of these people some day and ask them just how much they really hate their employer before you start talking shit from the comfort of your nice new 3-bedroom home. But no, you hate them because they have "billions" of dollars in revenues. People need to learn some goddamn economics. A billion dollars is a lot to you as the unambitious financially illiterate drone that you are, but to a corporation that amount represents just a tiny fraction of the total wages, taxes, supply costs, electricity costs, legal costs (of course they'll get sued - they make billions!), and other operational costs of the business. And where do those profits go? Back to the creditors and shareholders of course, so the former can afford to lend you the money that you're constantly borrowing and the latter can use the money to help that business or another business grow and employ more people and pay better wages and bigger employee bonuses. "Walmart type companies" are doing more to help these people than any asshole armchair activist ever could.

Diginut just pwned this thread.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Are you really this ignorant? Health care isn't free, everyone pays taxes to support that system. If we didn't have those "multi billion dollar employers" like Wal-mart, these people might not have jobs at all, and with lower corporate taxes (not that anyone is actually lowering corporate taxes) their jobs would be paying better wages. Most of these people are widows and retirees that wouldn't even be able to earn a living if it weren't for Wal-mart. Go fucking talk to one of these people some day and ask them just how much they really hate their employer before you start talking shit from the comfort of your nice new 3-bedroom home. But no, you hate them because they have "billions" of dollars in revenues. People need to learn some goddamn economics. A billion dollars is a lot to you as the unambitious financially illiterate drone that you are, but to a corporation that amount represents just a tiny fraction of the total wages, taxes, supply costs, electricity costs, legal costs (of course they'll get sued - they make billions!), and other operational costs of the business. And where do those profits go? Back to the creditors and shareholders of course, so the former can afford to lend you the money that you're constantly borrowing and the latter can use the money to help that business or another business grow and employ more people and pay better wages and bigger employee bonuses. "Walmart type companies" are doing more to help these people than any asshole armchair activist ever could.

If all things conservative are the solution to poverty, as you and jay seem to believe, why is there so much more of it in the USA compared to here and Europe?

And, other than the greeters, very few walmart employees are over 60. Nice try though

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Originally posted by miketg23 If all things conservative are the solution to poverty, as you and jay seem to believe, why is there so much more of it in the USA compared to here and Europe? And, other than the greeters, very few walmart employees are over 60. Nice try though

if you dont think there is a lot of poverty in europe you have really good blinders on.