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Originally posted by Waza ok so i need to get a pair of headphones now so is open headphones better for producing than closed if so why?

Pretty sure it is widely agreed among engineers that a pair of open phones will be more accurate than a similarly priced closed pair since the sound will not be resonating inside the earcup. Of course, if noise is an issue or if you are recording into a mic while headphone monitoring you may want to get a closed or "semi-open" like the AKG K240.

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thanks for that mrjivebojingles that makes sense.

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I have two opinions on this.

Closed back are superb for sound design and really intricate details on sounds, however they are more difficult for accurate mixing due to promximity effect.

Open back are better for mixing levels of discreet tracks or sounds but not as accurate for detail of indvidual sounds.

For closed back, I have tried them all, and swear by my Sony MDR 7509HD.

But I am probably going to pick up some AKG701's for mixing accuracy when I can't use my monitors.

well i'll be doing my final mix on my monitors but i do like to get as close as possible, so i don't have to redo all the volume automations etc.

those Sony MDR-7509HD sure look nice and i like the 50mm diameter drive unit.

Dj Rann how long is the cable for these.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Closed back are superb for sound design and really intricate details on sounds, however they are more difficult for accurate mixing due to promximity effect. Open back are better for mixing levels of discreet tracks or sounds but not as accurate for detail of indvidual sounds.

Where did you get this idea from? I've never heard this. AFAIK, closed headphones always sounds less accurate because of the reflections that happen inside the earcup. Likewise, bass becomes muddy and completely loses it's tightness for the same reason. This is very noticeable in Sennheiser HD280s, for example. Open headphones obviously don't have this problem. Closed headphones generally can have deeper bass, but it's not "real bass", it's just boosted by the earcup. I am of the understanding that closed headphones are only good in DJing or live recording circumstances that require isolation.

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Originally posted by echosystm AFAIK, closed headphones always sounds less accurate because of the reflections that happen inside the earcup. Likewise, bass becomes muddy and completely loses it's tightness for the same reason. This is very noticeable in Sennheiser HD280s, for example.

Personally I find it easy to get bass that sounds tight in my closed Sennheiser HD 280s, but when I move over to monitors or semi-open headphones, it may sound muddy. IMO closed headphones just do not give a very accurate reflection of bass. In the case of the Sennheisers, they can make it sound tighter than it really is.

I can hear more detail on my 7509HD's than my monitors - bass is not accurate in terms of level (and possibly fullness) but it is very good in terms of detail (timbre etc.). Mids and hi's sound incredibly detailed (nearly misleadingly) but I like the fact I can hear sounds incredibly clearly on them. I don't quite find the same level of detail with other closed headphones but it's a general rule I've found from working in the studio.

All the open backs I have used have just not been able to match the clarity of my 7509HD's but I really would not be comfortable doing a final mix on them so that's where I prefer the open backs, for accurate level representation.

For instance EQ'ing on 7509HD is a joy but mixing bass levels is pain.

Waza - the cable is about 5/6 feet but it's that springy coiled one so it can go close to double that before putting strain on the connector. I've had them two years and they are flawlessly built.

Cheers DJ RANN i done alot of research last night and decided on getting a pair so looking forward to putting them to the test.

Yes i will use my monitors for final mix and all that stuff and always be doing an A/B test on the bass etc as i always do this. even on the cheap pair i have just now i do this as i like to know if the bass will carry on any sound system.

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I bought K240S just now but come to think... what is the S? is it a new version? I payd 90USD for it.

sessheiser hd25's all the way

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Originally posted by Ravist I am planning to buy a pair of headphones so I can use with Reason on my laptop, I dont want to get monitors, YET and I already have a pair of headphones that im thinking of purhcasing but need more opinions from some of the experienced users on this forum. I'm really aiming to get a Sony MDR-7509, anyone used these before for producing or djing? One of the flaws of these headphones is that they break easily I also hear that AKG make good studio headphones

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