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lenazi
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i will add that look at a talented dj when he plays his "big track", you can see the pain in his face most of the time.


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No, but I also don't drink out of a fucking sippy-cup you goddamned Appalachian.

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Domesticated
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Originally posted by lenazi
sorry to hear that he would have blown you away.

you want to know what you are getting go see deadmau5.

i'll take the talent and people who know what they are doing anyday over an artist that the edm noob is pissed at because he didn't play said track.

the whole concept misses the point on what a good party should be. Save the chin stroking and the train spotting for the dj promo forums, and let someone shine how they see fit imo.

"omg villalobos did not play the 808 bass queen"

i say fucking great, because he played some of the best house music that he did not produce from the decade past.

maybe it is just me. having a good time and listening to great music > track listing and waiting for that big cheap pop.


That's the whole point (which you've clearly been missing).

I hardly ever have a good night when I go to see a producer and know their tracks. When I've seen guys like Pappa or Hernan with very productions, however, they always blow me away (but also because they are just plain good DJs).

I would much prefer to go out and not know a single tune rather than hear mostly tracks I know. My whole point is that it's hard to break out of that mould when you're always seeing producers play. It would be better if the two professions were seperate I think.

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Domesticated
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Originally posted by lenazi
i will add that look at a talented dj when he plays his "big track", you can see the pain in his face most of the time.


True, but not always.

One of the best club moments I've experienced was hearing Green Velvet do La La Land by playing the dub and singing the vocals live. He clearly loved it and I've have rarely seen a place jump like that. It was ages after the track was released too.

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lenazi
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i'm not missing the point, because i am half in the bag and not really reading your posts.

it is about balance. I can't be just shit that people do not know, because that is no good either.

it is almost like the debate of bomb vs filler.

you keep dropping bombs and no one will be there at the end. You drop none = rinse and repeat. Djing is so muh more deep than actual skill, and so little actually understand it (i can even put myself in that category because even if i think i can do 2 hours of pwn...danny howells comes along and does 14 hours without breaking a sweat and no one leaves the floor.)


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No, but I also don't drink out of a fucking sippy-cup you goddamned Appalachian.

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lenazi
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Originally posted by Domesticated
True, but not always.

One of the best club moments I've experienced was hearing Green Velvet do La La Land by playing the dub and singing the vocals live. He clearly loved it and I've have rarely seen a place jump like that. It was ages after the track was released too.


i saw this too and wanted to kill him lol. Maybe it was the drugs, but a big black alien looking dude singing completely off key was not fun;p


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No, but I also don't drink out of a fucking sippy-cup you goddamned Appalachian.

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My whole point is that it's hard to break out of that mould when you're always seeing producers play. It would be better if the two professions were seperate I think.


I don't find that hard at all, actually. Maybe at first when I had absolutely no idea what a DJ did and thought that he was making the tracks on the go.

Actually, I prefer it when they DON'T play their "huge tracks" because most of the time they just force them in and end up disrupting the flow just for the sake of playing the damn track.


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Originally posted by woscar I still can't believe Tiesto is still playing his remix of "Silence" in every damn set.


And you don't love that??? =p


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And hey, even Union Jack and Art of Trance do the occasional show.


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I don't understand the point of making the question so broad.


If you're good at DJing, you should do it, if you're good at producing and have interesting ideas, you should also do that.

Pretty simple, and should be judged on a case by case basis.


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And you don't love that??? =p


I did. 8 years ago.

Right now, I really don't care as I don't listen to Trance anymore. But I've seen the occasional tracklist and a few threads here talking about his recent sets and it's just LULZ.


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Lews
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Oh I know. I consider myself stuck in the past (None of my mixes use music post 2001-ish era) and I love it. And I love Silence. It's a great track, though I only listen to it maybe once a month, 11:35 so fucking long, and still haven't used it in a mix.

But I try to expand what I listen to to more modern stuff (House, Techno, and the like... fuck modern "trance" ) and other stuff [right now loving Jay's Mix ] and when I see his tracklists its like... christ. That shit should be done by someone like me, not by you. Every concert, Silence? Really? Why not Traffic, Flight 643, Adagio, and Lethal? Oh they're in there too? Oh... My bad.


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david.michael
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quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
I don't understand the point of making the question so broad.


If you're good at DJing, you should do it, if you're good at producing and have interesting ideas, you should also do that.

Pretty simple, and should be judged on a case by case basis.


Nail, head.

Good producers should produce, good DJs should DJ. Some of them happen to be good at both.

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