I used to own a djm3000, then went to a 4d. last night I spent about 3 hours playing on a djm700. main thing I noticed was how short the faders felt. problem forgot this as I swapped over to rotary for the last 18 months I had the 3000. and whilst the A&H cueing system (press 2 channel cues at the same time) seemed odd when I first started, going back to pioneer, I miss the A&H method.
and the 1 filter on the djm is nowhere near as useful or nice sounding as the A&H filters.

For me the most important DJ tool is the EQ, and the Pioneer EQ can't compete with the A&H and that holds true for the other A&H mixers too.

A&H used made Studio mixing desks long before DJ mixers and their stuff has always been expensive but top notch.

I have a Xone 464 at home and appart from it being huge it's the best mixer I have ever owned.

To put it into context, over the years I have owned stacks of mixers from GLI, Vestax and Pioneer just to mention a few. Not to mention that I use quite a few Pioneers quire regularly.

The A&H just has a nice and rich sound quality about it.

Cheers
Nem

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Originally posted by tubby whilst the A&H cueing system (press 2 channel cues at the same time) seemed odd when I first started, going back to pioneer, I miss the A&H method.

I never really understood why people do this.??

The way I cue a track is just press "cue" for the channel I am cueing, and then just turn the "add mix" knob to hear the current track playing.

If you press to channel cues at the same time then you just hear both of the tracks right away, and don't need to turn the "add mix" knob. But I don't see an advantage to is..

Maybe I am misunderstanding

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Originally posted by Cro_Addict I never really understood why people do this.?? The way I cue a track is just press "cue" for the channel I am cueing, and then just turn the "add mix" knob to hear the current track playing. If you press to channel cues at the same time then you just hear both of the tracks right away, and don't need to turn the "add mix" knob. But I don't see an advantage to is.. Maybe I am misunderstanding

This.

I used to cue on my old vestax by cueing both tracks as there wasn't an add mix feature. But with the Xone i use the method you described about and absolutely love it. Saves my ears quite a bit as well as i find i don't turn it up as much.

i never really felt the need to use the cue mix knobs, not that fussed about hearing just a little of the live channel, press both and you get the same 50/50 split of the two channels, i find it better for hearing clashes, and to save my ears just turn down the headphone volume. each to their own i guess.

and on an 800 - where the mix volume when you use split cue is defined by the master out, you can be a little stuck if the master volume is low

Definitely comes down to personal preference. Both have their plus and minuses.

For me there are certain things that the A&H does very well. BUT the mixer also dosent feel as "substantial" ill say. Everything on the A&H seems very small/flimsy to the touch.

Id say youd be very happy with either or. Wouldnt hurt to be familiar with both (a Halloween party I went to the DJ could not figure out how to change the upfader's curve on the A&H) and hell even with the Rane mixer if you have a chance. After all not every club is going to have your home setup.

I started on Pioneer. Im still on Pioneer. Really dont see a need to switch at the current time.

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Originally posted by Imagin Definitely comes down to personal preference. Both have their plus and minuses. For me there are certain things that the A&H does very well. BUT the mixer also dosent feel as "substantial" ill say. Everything on the A&H seems very small/flimsy to the touch. Id say youd be very happy with either or. Wouldnt hurt to be familiar with both (a Halloween party I went to the DJ could not figure out how to change the upfader's curve on the A&H) and hell even with the Rane mixer if you have a chance. After all not every club is going to have your home setup. I started on Pioneer. Im still on Pioneer. Really dont see a need to switch at the current time.

Which xone lets you switch the upfaders curve? Sounds cool...

Im very A&H stupid for the most part. He was basically having the problem of he would get no sound til almost the top of the upfaders motion and when it kicked in it kicked in full volume instead of a gradual increase. Just left him with one less tool in the box so does speak.

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