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Originally posted by saluyamo So if we control nothing more than cities and military bases against what you call nationalist fighters how do you expect us to beat

Al-Qaeda isn't a nationalist entity...

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Unless NATO and other nations are going into Somalia and other hot spots eg. South East Asia, many other parts of Africa, Columbia we are FAR from over in the war against terrorism and

Hmm, you still buy into this War on Terror garbage huh?

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if whenever we do pull out of Afghanistan it will more than likely again become a hot spot making what we've done quite moot.

What we'r doing right now is quite moot. And as a country with 100% national debt to GDP, we can't afford any more of these occupations of entire countries when we should be really going after Al-Qaeda. Not Baathists or Taliban.

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Originally posted by Krypton Al-Qaeda isn't a nationalist entity... Hmm, you still buy into this War on Terror garbage huh? What we'r doing right now is quite moot. And as a country with 100% national debt to GDP, we can't afford any more of these occupations of entire countries when we should be really going after Al-Qaeda. Not Baathists or Taliban.

I apologise, I think I confused you by what I are trying to argue.
I never said that Al-Qaeda was a nationalist entity, I quoted what you described them as, I have never brought into the war (you are the one that believes that the war is winnable. Sarcasm?), yet the places I listed I would assume be listed as 'strongholds' of terrorists and/or people with the intent of causing terror either to the USA or the West in general.
It seems we agree on the fact that the occupation is moot and that we should be using what resources we can spare to hunt Al-Qaeda and other terrorist organisations.

Many people ask how did USA fuck up in Afghanistan so badly?
To answer that question we have to spin the clock backwards to December 2001.

The talibans had just been drawn out from Kabul and a huge meeting was arranged in Bonn, Germany to decide the future of the war torn country. The Bonn-meeting was a golden opportunity. A new beginning.
But massive mistakes was commited by the americans during that meeting.
They invited all old warlords to plan the future of Afghanistan. The same war lords that was the VERY reason why the talibans once emerged in 1994. So what can you expect of war lords that know nothing but killing?
The afghan politics have since been suffering by corruption, killings, every warlord still houses his own private army.

Thanks to the mistakes by the americans back then they are still suffering casualities today.
Good job!

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Originally posted by saluyamo I apologise, I think I confused you by what I are trying to argue. I never said that Al-Qaeda was a nationalist entity, I quoted what you described them as, I have never brought into the war (you are the one that believes that the war is winnable. Sarcasm?), yet the places I listed I would assume be listed as 'strongholds' of terrorists and/or people with the intent of causing terror either to the USA or the West in general. It seems we agree on the fact that the occupation is moot and that we should be using what resources we can spare to hunt Al-Qaeda and other terrorist organisations.

Is english you second language?

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