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ziptnf
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Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Louisville, KY

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
That's funny that you say that; because I find this set a bit unsatisfying. While I felt my others have had a conclusive end, I almost regret that I didn't make this a two or three hour mix. To me, the final track feels like a potential bridge into a second hour of trancier, faster music. Glad you enjoyed it though; I'm happy with it.

It's hard to top mixes like Contact/12 Hours/Mimesis. You're a talented DJ but it's hard to make each mix better than your last! I think it was good to stop the set where you did, I would way rather listen to a faster mix separate.


quote:
Thanks for the length review. All of this was mixed harmonically, at least to my ears. You may have felt the mixing was weaker than previous efforts because I went for far longer and more gradual transitions than usual, which potentially gives elements more time to clash.

There were times when I was listening and felt like the transition had been banging out for a little too long, but it didn't feel rough at all, your mixing was pretty smooth but not as smooth as your previous efforts. Still good tho

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This wasn't really a house set, by the way. That tag was a bit tongue-in-cheek. Tracks 8-13 would probably be considered trance, especially since they were at around 135 BPM, which is unusual for house.

I noticed that it became quite the trance set after the fifth track, but it still had a housey vibe. All the artists you played toward the end were trance/psytrance artists, but you selected lighter/groovier tracks. The tempo did pick up considerably and I felt that was very appropriate.

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On the last track, I think you will find this is 'real' psy-trance in the traditional sense, as opposed to Goa, full-on or progressive. It would perhaps be worth investigating more tracks to see if there's anything you like.

Yes, I do enjoy straight up psytrance... I played one of those toward the end of my set, I'm sure you will be able to tell which one it is

I appreciated this set, make a stomper next!


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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
That's funny that you say that; because I find this set a bit unsatisfying. While I felt my others have had a conclusive end, I almost regret that I didn't make this a two or three hour mix. To me, the final track feels like a potential bridge into a second hour of trancier, faster music. Glad you enjoyed it though; I'm happy with it.


I'm not a massive fan of longer DJ sets for home listening. There's a different style of programming required for a longer set, and it's pretty difficult to keep a set taut and interesting.

John Digweed said something about how a DJ set in a club over several hours involves a series of anthemic peaks balanced out with plenty of lower-key tracks so the dancefloor doesn't get knackered. On a mix CD he cuts out the low-key tracks and just plays the best in a concentrated dose. I agree, and 60-80 minutes is an ideal length for a set at home.


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> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
> Higher Peaks [Progressive House]
> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

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Magadansky
Trees of Psychedelia



Registered: Jun 2006
Location: Sofia

Just took a listen. First, I think this is not house set in its literal sense, since this music is much closer to the progpsy genre than to house (which is a good thing considering my tastes ). I loved the first track, excellent bassline and nice groove that really set a wonderful mood. All the tracks actually have that mood even though some of them were faster or meaner (if mean is even the exact word but cant find a better one). Definitely a set for home as previous posters said, this has to be experienced in a nice sofa, beer on the table next to you and a beautiful view, somewhere far from the city. It was really relaxing for me.

Mixing was good and it didn't ruin the flow in any moment. It doesn't need to be harmonic, actually I prefer to understand when a new track kicks in so for me mixing was spot on. Can't think of any negative remarks, the set had a purpose and it fulfilled it. Well done!


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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Magadansky
Definitely a set for home as previous posters said, this has to be experienced in a nice sofa, beer on the table next to you and a beautiful view, somewhere far from the city. It was really relaxing for me.


Eh? Nobody has said that. I think this shit would go down a storm in a club. 135bpm prog is not sofa music, unless you're a grooveless speed demon.


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> Maximum Elevation [Progressive House]
> DI.FM 26th Anniversary Guest Mix [Progressive House]
> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
> Higher Peaks [Progressive House]
> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

Like these sets? Come see me play live at Kibosh in Manchester: https://www.instagram.com/kibosh.mcr/

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Magadansky
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Registered: Jun 2006
Location: Sofia

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Eh? Nobody has said that. I think this shit would go down a storm in a club. 135bpm prog is not sofa music, unless you're a grooveless speed demon.

BPM for me has to do nothing in my opinion towards is this relaxing or pumping music. Yeah, some tracks in the set (actually almost all of them) would work in a club but they also have relaxing melodies, atmospheres (in most of the part) which are enough for me to feel relaxed. 160 bpm music can also be made in a relaxing way. The groove which you mention is completely subjective for sofa or club music. Even some ambient has a groove that can shake my ass but would I appreciate in club while wanting some dancing? No. This is what I meant.


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ziptnf
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Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Louisville, KY

quote:
Originally posted by Magadansky
Even some ambient has a groove that can shake my ass

I would pay money to see you shake your ass to Ambient


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SYSTEM-J
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quote:
Originally posted by Magadansky
BPM for me has to do nothing in my opinion towards is this relaxing or pumping music.


On a dancefloor, the bottom end gives a track its energy, because that's where the kinetic energy that you literally feel through your body comes from. A house beat has a bass drum on every beat, so the BPM is directly relevant to the energy level. It's not just the physical sensation of bass regularly hitting your ribcage. Prominent tempos affect your heart and breathing rates, so the higher the tempo, the faster your heart beats. That's more or less the antithesis of "relaxing".

I'm not saying this set doesn't work at home, because it does. But I strongly disagree that this is relaxing sofa-music. Apart from the opening couple of tracks it's big-room club music.


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> Maximum Elevation [Progressive House]
> DI.FM 26th Anniversary Guest Mix [Progressive House]
> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
> Higher Peaks [Progressive House]
> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

Like these sets? Come see me play live at Kibosh in Manchester: https://www.instagram.com/kibosh.mcr/

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Magadansky
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Registered: Jun 2006
Location: Sofia

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
On a dancefloor, the bottom end gives a track its energy, because that's where the kinetic energy that you literally feel through your body comes from. A house beat has a bass drum on every beat, so the BPM is directly relevant to the energy level. It's not just the physical sensation of bass regularly hitting your ribcage. Prominent tempos affect your heart and breathing rates, so the higher the tempo, the faster your heart beats. That's more or less the antithesis of "relaxing".

I'm not saying this set doesn't work at home, because it does. But I strongly disagree that this is relaxing sofa-music. Apart from the opening couple of tracks it's big-room club music.

Well I guess, judging by your explanation, that my heart is so used to high BPM that it feels this style as relaxation.


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ziptnf
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Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Louisville, KY

quote:
Originally posted by Magadansky
Well I guess, judging by your explanation, that my heart is so used to high BPM that it feels this style as relaxation.

+1

I was grooving to this set but I wasn't banging my head and rocking out. I'm sure if it was at a club it would be a different story, I would probably dance!


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SYSTEM-J
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This is probably because you're both big psy-heads who are used to 140 and above.


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> Maximum Elevation [Progressive House]
> DI.FM 26th Anniversary Guest Mix [Progressive House]
> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
> Higher Peaks [Progressive House]
> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

Like these sets? Come see me play live at Kibosh in Manchester: https://www.instagram.com/kibosh.mcr/

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Magadansky
Trees of Psychedelia



Registered: Jun 2006
Location: Sofia

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
This is probably because you're both big psy-heads who are used to 140 and above.

Actually as much as I am a psy head, I am also an ambient fan so I really know what makes me feel relaxed and that is not the bpm, its the atmosphere created by the track. I can give you an example with Blue Planet Corporation's Atoll


Its 150 bpm, however I am feeling relaxed after listening to it. Anyway, we are really off topic now so I will just say to whoever still hadn't listen to the set to do it now since its a very nice one!


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TwoHardCore
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Calgary

Domesticated/Stub, another nice set you've shared mate!

I like your no-nonsense approach to track selection, which is to say I think the tracks all fit your set-theme well, and are nicely chosen! I've only heard a few of these tracks before, and would probably use one or two in one of my mixes if I had them, like Liquid Soul - Unannounced Portal. Your mixing IMO was very well done.

If you like the bangin progressive sound, you might like my inPSYsors set (see sig). Aside from the mixing (which isn't horrible), I think you'd probably like it.

Cheers & thanks for sharing another good set,

THC


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