I'm so glad I live in a normal city and don't have to deal with weird bullshit like this lol

how about dog walkers? they should be charged too since they do this for a fee to the dog owners...

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I'm outright disgusted by toronto's shit as of late, i'm not going to be living here for much longer... poorly run and full of shit heads who think with their dicks.

lol I used to be such a Toronto advocate five years ago, things change I guess.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 And what about fining people for swearing? Id FUCKING love for them to fine me for that. It would be a supreme court case.

I would looooove it if a cop wrote me a ticket for swearing, I cant imagine the fun generated from the case.

wow, Toronto really does seem like it's going back to its presbyterian heritage.... LOL

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Originally posted by Anas Attia I would looooove it if a cop wrote me a ticket for swearing, I cant imagine the fun generated from the case.

It's not in public, just on TTC's private property. Even so that still is completely laughable imo...

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Originally posted by Endlesswave It's not in public, just on TTC's private property. Even so that still is completely laughable imo...

It's not only laughable, it's legally contradictory.

My position would be that it is technically public property because it is wholly owned by a government entity, and therefore constitutional protections apply (freedom of speech). However, if they want it to be treated as private property, where they can make any rules they want, then as the owner of private property they have no legal authority to impose fines against its occupants - they most they can do is what any private citizen or company can do, kick you out or sue you for trespassing if you refuse to leave.

It would seem that the idiots fine folks at the TTC want to have their cake and eat it too.

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Originally posted by Aleks_B wow, Toronto really does seem like it's going back to its presbyterian heritage.... LOL

Sadly..

we had 2 good decades... the peak being the 90s. But 2 main figures altered the course of toronto. Fantino and Miller.

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Originally posted by DigiNut It's not only laughable, it's legally contradictory. My position would be that it is technically public property because it is wholly owned by a government entity, and therefore constitutional protections apply (freedom of speech). However, if they want it to be treated as private property, where they can make any rules they want, then as the owner of private property they have no legal authority to impose fines against its occupants - they most they can do is what any private citizen or company can do, kick you out or sue you for trespassing if you refuse to leave. It would seem that the idiots fine folks at the TTC want to have their cake and eat it too.

Ah yeah. Forgot it's partly owned by the Gov with all the 'help' they're getting.

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LOL I love how the second one about disabled people on the bus has a quote saying "its like NYC" when no one gets up for you.

Horrible example as our buses *require* people to get up for disabled in certain seats. And if you dont get up on you own accord, the bus driver will get out of his seat on come let you KNOW that you have to get up.

The driver wont pull off the crub otherwise, and will often notify police. So, people just do it (whether they do it out of common courtesy, or because they are being scolded is a whole other issue, but most people are nice enough to do it).

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Worst part is we have even been trained to start accepting it as normal.

Too much power in the hands of government always leads to corruption.